Well, it's quite clear that we need a patch for Bryce5. And I know that Corel is aware of this and is working on it. But I'm frustrated with the wierd things that are happening in Bryce5 for me. I really hope the patch comes soon, because we need it. Anyone have any clue or any speculations on when the patch will be available for us to download and make everything better in Bryce5? I'm just curious. I had to wait over a year and a half for eovia to acquire Carrara and give us a patch to make the program work. I sincerely hope the time for the Bryce5 patch comes a lot sooner than that. Just wondering, that's all! kaom