Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: problem converting heirarchy

sebulba opened this issue on Oct 31, 1999 ยท 15 posts


sebulba posted Sun, 31 October 1999 at 6:03 PM

i get an eror saying can,t find geometry for the groups. i save obj,s with ray dream5.5. name groups properly. make flawless PHI spelled correctly. save obj in runtime geometries. what,s wrong


Kevin posted Sun, 31 October 1999 at 7:09 PM

Grab a copy of phi builder out of the free stuff. It is very useful for spotting these sorts of problems.


Anthony Appleyard posted Mon, 01 November 1999 at 5:51 AM

Go through the model's .obj geometry file with a text editor looking for lines starting with "g", to find what its groups are really called. Those lines set the groups. If your group names are on "usemtl" lines rather than on "g" lines, something is wrong somewhere.


sebulba posted Mon, 01 November 1999 at 5:56 PM

group names are correct and on "g" lines.


bloodsong posted Mon, 01 November 1999 at 6:09 PM

hmm... does the phi point to the correct location for the obj you are using? does it include the proper capitalization (or non-capitalization) of stuff? also check the capitalization for the group names. maybe you could also post a section of your phi here...? maybe we could spot something.


sebulba posted Mon, 01 November 1999 at 6:39 PM

here is my phi obj.File: Runtime:Geometries:Doughboy:doughboy.obj 1 body yzx 2 lArm xzy 2 rArm xzy 2 head yzx 3 lEye yzx 3 rEye yzx 2 lLeg yzx 2 rLeg yzx ikChain body


bushi posted Mon, 01 November 1999 at 8:26 PM

I'm certain you meant: objFile :Runtime:Geometries:Doughboy:doughboy.obj Right?


sebulba posted Mon, 01 November 1999 at 8:38 PM

yes, changed it,tried it, same problem, no geometry to match node (group name).


Kevin posted Mon, 01 November 1999 at 10:34 PM

Well, I still think you need to get phi builder (http://www.poserforum.com/download.ez?uploadid=66) and see what error it finds. You almost certainly have a spelling or capitalization error. But I don't think you can't use an Ik chain of only one object. And you will find that including eyes in the phi leads to problems later.


bushi posted Tue, 02 November 1999 at 1:38 AM

If you'd like a someone else to take a look you can e-mail a WINZIP of the .obj and .phi to bushi@spiritone.com. I've had a little experience tracking this type of error message down. ;-)


sebulba posted Tue, 02 November 1999 at 11:18 AM

kevin, i had a phi builder. it gave me the same result, so i got mad and deleted it. bushi, my free winzip trial ended and i don't have it. can i e-mail the files to you.


bushi posted Tue, 02 November 1999 at 12:04 PM

Sure, from the looks of the .phi the .obj isn't going to be that big. Send them over and I'll take a look.


sebulba posted Tue, 02 November 1999 at 2:34 PM

CAN YOU BELIEVE IT. the "." in obj.file shouldn't be there. it was messing it up. thanks to everyone who helped


Anthony Appleyard posted Wed, 03 November 1999 at 2:28 AM

Kevin wrote:- > And you will find that including eyes in the phi leads to problems later. In Poser 3, I read that the only valid way to get a human figure's eyes in correctly is: Leave the eyeballs out of the geometry and the .phi file. Create the .cr2 file in the usual way. Then add the eyeballs to the geometry, and copy in the eye matter to the .cr2 file from some other model's .cr2 file, but you have to be know what you are doing if you mess about with the insides of a .cr2 file. (Someone told me that Poser 4 behaves better with eyes when it makes a figure given a .phi file that mentions eyes.)


sebulba posted Wed, 03 November 1999 at 11:13 AM

thanks but it works great in p4