I am amazed at the high value we enjoy in the Poser community. Not only do we get great free stuff, but the cost of models compared to their quality...WOW. I would hardly use Poser or think of it as a serious tool without all the great models. Placed my second order with Vista Internet Products, Early Sunday Morning Town Prop. I had a problem reading a file on the CD they shipped me. One e-mail is all it took! They double checked a CD they had ready and sent it out THE SAME DAY!! http://www.vistainternetproducts.com/ Bought the 2 CD set from Wayne (cal here at renderosity) http://funkybob.virtualave.net also at poserworld.com . What a value. Gobs of high quality poser ready models. Received my order in three days. both cds for $35. RUN, don't walk to get these. The only thing that is a better value for the money is Kozaburo's free hair. SAMS3D is also a joy to work with. I've ordered 3 models from then now. They all work as expected plus they regularly give away really good stuff. Their Haunted House is really cool. The Stuff at Rosity's Marketplace is such a good value. Again, Poser by itself is such a limited tool without all the cool stuff. Thanks to all the artists/modelers here and on other sites that make it happen.