OK, I got the black ring problem cured and the lips. To turn vic 2 into a teenager I scaled the head to .3 young and the same with the jaw. (also dozens of other minor face tweaks. The thing that seemed to me to reduce the age the most was adjusting the nose to a more flattened, wide bridge. The target age of this is 15 - 16 but to me it still looks more 20 ish.... Suggestions? Thanks Mike