Ok here is the problem that is currently confounding me. I have a set of spotlights called "posing lights 01" (a fill, backlight and mainlight) that I use on characters. When I load them the default Poser lights (infinite lights) go out, but are still there just turned off. Now to the problem, I want to load a second figure into the scene and use a second instance of the same set of spotlights on it. (BTW I always use a null-loader for scenes with multiple figures). The moment I load the second instance of my "posing lights 01" set the first set vanish from the scene. I have tried renaming them before loading the second figure and lights set, parenting them to the head of the first figure and moving them back along the z-axis. Nothing seems to work each time the second instance kills the first. I know it would be simple to just make a second set within the scene but I want to be able to load a second set from the library. It struck me that this might be a bug or crosstalk problem. I have never really questioned it before in the (nearly) 3 years I have been using Poser but now it is annoying me and I am very interested in finding out if there is a workaround. I could export the scene as a Pz3 and edit it, but that is much more work than manually creating a second instance of my light sets. Anyone have any answers or ideas? Regards STORM