Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Supermodel Dina Lives!

Jim Burton opened this issue on Nov 04, 2001 ยท 21 posts


Jim Burton posted Sun, 04 November 2001 at 11:01 PM

She is just about finished, I'm showing her here with stock Dina and SMV, to show the difference, SMV is sort of smiling because she knows she has nothing to worry about! Anyway, she wound up the same size a regular Dina, at one point I had her up to Supermodel Vickie's size, but the joints were in the wrong place and didn't bend right. She does have high-heel feet though, just like the other Supermodels. I had to scale her feet down to fit her size, which means none of SMV's clothing is going to fit unless I can get a scaling pose to work right. As you can see not much is left of Dina's original shape, she is essentually a different figure using the same object file, all mesh is in new positions. There will be morphs for everything but her fingers. I don't know what I'll do on the clothing, the easiest thing would be have a SMD clothing line, all modifed at the mesh level, just like she is. She did wind up as more shapely than SMV, who is slighly willowly in comparision. How many of you guys are going to be disapointed if she can't wear SMV's duds, but has her own instead?

fauve posted Sun, 04 November 2001 at 11:03 PM

I think she looks terrific. You gave her a very proportional shape, as opposed to SMV's more stylized body. Great work!


lalverson posted Sun, 04 November 2001 at 11:40 PM

Either way, i like..alott. when where and how much?


thgeisel posted Mon, 05 November 2001 at 3:33 AM

Jim: you are right ,SMV has nothing to worry about!!


mabfairyqueen posted Mon, 05 November 2001 at 5:59 AM

WOW!!!! Much much better. I'm sorry, but I saw pics of the real Dina this model was modeled after and her shoulders weren't THAT big as on the default Dina. Really great job of "fixing" her. She doesn't look like a linebacker anymore. I like the way you fixed the sternum's width on the chest. That really bugged me before. The shoulders are much better too and the width of the nose. Your version actually looks closer to the real Dina person, in my opinion. Oh and great job improving the proportion of the thighs to the shins. That really bugged me too.


mabfairyqueen posted Mon, 05 November 2001 at 6:06 AM

Oh, and I think a new clothing line just kinda goes with the territory with a remodeling of this level. I don't think anyone will have any objections to that. Would it be possible to make a version of her that can have flat feet also, not the condition of flat feet like I've got myself, but you know what I mean, so she can wear tennies. Supermodels wear tennies all the time, especially in Sears and Target commercials. :o) I really like the high heel feet too, though.


movida posted Mon, 05 November 2001 at 8:07 AM

I'd be disappointed but it would't stop me from buying her. I really do love SMV's evening gown from bbay


Jim Burton posted Mon, 05 November 2001 at 10:05 AM

Thanks guys! I think I can make her feet so she can wear flats, by just bending to flat-foot, as I'd hate to have to include another CR2, this one is going to be big with all the morphs for all that mesh. For that reason I thing I'm going to throw out her existing breast morhs and put another one in th eset, as the origianl ones only seems to work on the bottom part of her breasts. I think I'm also going to give her a new "default" face, because the head morph includes the whole head mesh anyway I might as well get something useful out if it! The one above has a de-jowl (if you know what I mean) morph, that will be standard, along with some of the other changes above. I think I'm also going to do some more (moderate) improvements - she might as well get a full face-lift to go with the new body! I should have her to the store this week, with any luck she'll be up by the weekend. She'll go for $20 or so. She was actually quite a lot of work, pretty close to starting a figure from scratch. The huge vertex count brought my computer to it's knees, many times! Oh, MAB, your right. I sort of got the same impression I did when I opened the original Vickie I, the mesh was sort of designed to ugly her up! The real Dina isn't really like that, so much for "working from a real figure"!


duanemoody posted Mon, 05 November 2001 at 12:58 PM

Sure they used real figures, Jim. Above the neck, she's Dina Marie Vannoni, below the neck she's Dr. Evil in drag. "Throw me a frickin' BONE here, people..." BTW, has anyone else here noticed that the superheroine site linked off of Dinamarie.com, which obviously relies on Poser, doesn't use the Dina model for Dina?


soulhuntre posted Mon, 05 November 2001 at 3:20 PM

Well, I wasn't going to get her anyway I think (I just don't see me on the Dina train soon - though obviously she can look fine) but if it added ANOTHER clothing line then I can't afford it anyway. I still don't own all the Vicki and SMV clothing I need. I am not going to add Dina and SMD clothign as well. My hope was that SMD would let me use the SMV clothing so I didn;t need Dina clothing at all :( Anyway, great job!


Purr3D posted Mon, 05 November 2001 at 8:17 PM

Good gosh! Thank you! I've got a Dina character that I've been
working on too, and I know how much work she is. SMD is definitely
on my shopping list. >^_^


kjlintner posted Tue, 06 November 2001 at 6:49 AM

Just something to keep in mind about Dina... She requires anywhere from 200-250MB ram to be allocated to her. Thats a massive amout of system resources, so if you don't have a power system you may be wasting your money.


Jim Burton posted Tue, 06 November 2001 at 2:41 PM

She's done, here is a pic - It turns out the SMV's shoes are actually pretty easy to get on - as a prop, that is- you just scale them to 92% and position them on her feet, then parent the shoe body to her feet. They actually work pretty good except you have to move the shoes toes manually if the pose requires it. I did some more work on her face, I wanted to keep it as Dina's face (so other morphs would work), but I was a little unhappy with the original. To let the cat out of the bag, mabfairyqueen did the texture, which is superb, and will be included. Oh, I gave up on her wearing flats, she can do down to about a 2" heel, but that is it.

Purr3D posted Wed, 07 November 2001 at 1:28 PM

When?! When?! When?!????? and where? ::wants her NOW!:: >^_~


Jim Burton posted Thu, 08 November 2001 at 7:16 AM

I sort of said she was done, turns out she wasn't quite done, afterall. I had to do some more work on her breasts, she now has some really nice ones, and her face, which is also much better. I took out the two stock Dina breast morphs, they only worked on th elower part, and added one of my own "small breast" As this is my first real venture into a pin-up figure I gave her a pretty big set as default, but if you like you can turn this one backward! I also am having some problems with her joint parameters, it turns out some of the stock Dina ones don't work so well with her new body, I modifided her knees and thighs, I have to do her elbows tonight. She should be up into the stores tommorrow, I plan on having her here, at "the other places" (you might know where I mean) and at BBay. BBay will probably have her up in the store first, Bill is pretty fast. All will be the same price, so support your favorite place! Incidently, if she sells well I'll do a "Dina's Essentials"- just pin-up stuff, heels, bikini, haltertop, micro mini, stuff like that. I'm going to have to say, don't plan on buying her to wear Dina's clothing - come to think of it, I don't think I've seen much of Dina in any kind of clothing! ;-)


Purr3D posted Thu, 08 November 2001 at 7:22 AM

I've already bought all of Dina's clothing :( How difficult do you think it would be to make up a set of clothing mags to convert the clothes for use with SMD? Would that even work?


soulhuntre posted Fri, 09 November 2001 at 1:27 AM

What about SMV clothing?


Jim Burton posted Fri, 09 November 2001 at 10:19 AM

Time for one more teaser! I don't think regular Dina's clothing is doable, at one time I tried the same thing with SMV and Victoria's clothing, I had 19 (!) magnets on the catsuit and it still wasn't working very well, then Poser crashed, so it was the end of that idea. The bodies are just too far apart. However, SMV's clothing might be another story, I am going to try that - SMD can wear SMV's shoes (but not anything with active thighs, like boots) fine, as props though. I don't thing the SMV stuff with the more exacting fits, like her catsuit, will ever fit right though. As the various stores should be getting her today, when she actually surfaces depends on them.

Jim Burton posted Fri, 09 November 2001 at 10:22 AM

Incidently, SMV is now slightly worried!


Jim Burton posted Fri, 09 November 2001 at 10:24 AM

Plus she wants her hair back!


Purr3D posted Fri, 09 November 2001 at 10:29 AM

Woot! SMV needs to be worried too (it's good for her. keep her from getting a big head)..wow! I can't wait! THanks so much for this ::hugs:: ::is prepping CC for meltdown::