Well, I've been working with the Vue demo and yesterday ordered the full version of Vue4...........can't wait!! Today I grabed Mike's rocks :) and some great freebies from "Sam's 3d" (been using your stuff for awhile guys, grabbing it from Lannie's. I do plan to pick up some of your "split walls".....price is quite reasonable) Does anyone know whey there are no Vue objects in the "Market Place"?? I also sent the eon link to a friend who downloaded the demo last night :) So Life is Good!! Except........I missed Orio's great tree!!! Nuts!! I will need to visit weekly I guess :) Here's a little image I did last night in the Vue demo. The old pump is the one created by Sam's 3d :) Since it is a wavefront obj, only one color could be applied (at least in Vue.....have not tried this one in Bryce). I had to "tweak" one of the limited materials in the demo....rendered and saved a number of different image versions and ended up doing some post production layering in Psp to have the pump and base look different. No good material in the demo for the bucket.........so I have a metal vs a wooden bucket :) This image was also compressed in jpg optimizer so it should load fast. Thought I'd share :) Sandy