As it may have been apparent from my posts, - I've used Simply 3D for years now. I did have an old Bryce 2 version that I kinda never really got used to. So when S3D got totally outdated, I started lookin' I got the Bryce update, - so I'm on ver. 5 now. But as y'all (uh.. how's my Southern accent??) know Bryce isn't really good for modelling details that I want into Poser. I've downloaded the free Amapi ver. 4.1 and I'm about to pull out my hair. :) the interface is SOOO different. I know, - it's all a matter of getting used to it. But one of the things I've discovered with the different 3D modelling programs is that they "all" have to have an "artistic, NEW" way of inventing the wheel. And by the time you finally have LEARNED the darned thingy, you discover that it wasn't THAT good after all. Of course we ALL know the price tag on those packages. They don't come cheap! I get more and more annoyed about the costs of these things. So I've decided that I want to travel the "tourist class". I don't want to buy "pro packs", Victorias that get more and more expencive the larger boobies she gets. But apparently I DO need a "ground floor" modelling tool. Which one would you reccomend, - and why? Britt