Hi, I can't find my original post and I'm short on time so here goes... I posted earlier looking for thighboots (amongst other things :) so her for those that would like such a thing is a comparison of such boots as are available. Reading from right to left, socks (clothing pack) "thigh" boots (clothing pack) Lace-up boots (Billy-T store) thigh boots (ghastley, free from his site) and last but not least, vicky 1.0 (with 4.0.3 update applied in stock pose for purposes of size comparison. Fo my purposes the Ghastley boots are great, but not without problems... :) About which, "more later" :) later jb