Forum: Bryce


Subject: Theres something missing on these helicopters I just can't tell

archlite opened this issue on Nov 26, 2001 ยท 8 posts


archlite posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 8:09 AM

I know these are missing something I think I have just been lookng at them too long. Any input please. Thanks.

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archlite posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 8:10 AM

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wolf359 posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 8:33 AM

is'nt there supposed to be a small propellor in the tail section some where??



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boblowery posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 10:06 PM

right side vertical stabilizer - rotor ?????????


EricofSD posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 10:20 PM

yup, tail rotor is needed or, you can use a coanda boom like the new Boeing MD 520's and 600's. They're fun to fly and work relatively well for what they are. If you want a comment on realism, ditch the split blades and stay with a solid blade. You may want to make the blades about 20% longer and move the rotor head just a bit more foreward. Also, a rod at the bottom rear of the tail cone (stinger) to absorbe the impact of a hotshot who flares too hard on landing as well as protecting the tail rotor (not to mention a good hand hold for ground handling of the machine). If you insist on split blades, then make them contra rotating which means one set higher than the other set. Not a good idea, but one that has been put into service before. hope this helps.


Dann-O posted Wed, 28 November 2001 at 5:23 PM

the problem that they hav is that thre is nothing to counter the torque of th main rotor. There are three ways this is done. 1. Have a tail rotor at a perpendiculr angle to the main rotor. Most helicopters use this method2. Have two main rotors the Marine Chinook helicopter is a main exampl of this. 3.Have counter rotating rotors. This is two rotors one above the other spinning in opposite directions. this method is used by a Russian Navy helicopter the helix. Without a counterto the torque the helicopter goes into autorotation and and a crash. If the rotor is unpowered it will not require the counter to the torque. This is in the Autogiros of the 1930's and Gyrocopters. You will then need a different form of propulsion. A strong force pulling forward and the rotors go on their own. These kind need a runway to take off and land. I am showing an exampl of a autogiro.

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archlite posted Wed, 28 November 2001 at 7:04 PM

Actually the rear of each copter has a jet vent I modelled after the notor system. I'l render a close up. Thanks.

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Dann-O posted Wed, 28 November 2001 at 9:03 PM

WEll the thing you will need is somthing to counter the torque. Having a vent on the ends of th rotors won't do i Autogyro does nto need it because i has no power to it. The problem with an Autogyro is it neds forward momentum thus is no beter than a normal airplane but slower thus the have not been made since the 1930's. Put the rotors on over the other is a simpke soulution. I saw a demo of the Helix in Oklahoma it is an awsome machine. It can fly sidways backwards because of the way the torque is neutral. Cool looking models with a hard edge. Put them in a scene to show them off. Flying at treetop level or something. the Easy waywoudl be just to duplicate the rotor and place it just above the other for a working model. For just looks they are cool keep up the modeling. Working in aviation related buisness for 12 years takes its toll. sorry for all the data. I like building aircraft in Modeling programs also.

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