Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: 0.618 to 1

tasmanet opened this issue on Dec 01, 2001 ยท 13 posts


tasmanet posted Sat, 01 December 2001 at 6:21 AM

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tasmanet posted Sat, 01 December 2001 at 6:38 AM

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Puppeteer posted Sat, 01 December 2001 at 9:05 AM

The Golden Ratio right? Saw a whole program about this a while back; was really interesting.


VirtualSite posted Sat, 01 December 2001 at 9:07 AM

Interesting that all of the examples seen were women, which suggests that whatever defines beauty in men is still an elusive concept, while women are supposed to be in this one-size-fits-all construct.


bloodsong posted Sat, 01 December 2001 at 9:26 AM

heyas; no, when i saw it, they had male faces fit in it too. some kennedy guy or other, etc.


VirtualSite posted Sat, 01 December 2001 at 10:07 AM

I must have missed them. Ill go back and look. Id be curious if this golden mean thing means a mans attractiveness is contingent on features that resembles a womans.


Director posted Sat, 01 December 2001 at 10:09 AM

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tasmanet posted Sat, 01 December 2001 at 10:34 AM

Have a look at the links and you will see that it even applies to teeth.


doozy posted Sat, 01 December 2001 at 11:50 AM

Look carefully enough, and you will find the debunkers of this theory. They are not so newsworthy, though...


otaku posted Sat, 01 December 2001 at 1:05 PM

Actually the measurement is 1-1.618 and the theory is that it appears in all living things. The nautilus shell, how plants grow, roses and the human skeleton. Also great art and architecture has incorporated the theory as well. It's supposed to be natures perfectproportional harmoney and the closer things fit into the equation the more our brains perseve them as attractive. It's not so much about beauty but about the more something differse from the equation the brain says it's defective and you may not want to mate with it. I found out about it 2 years ago and use it daily in designs. It's also great for character designs heroes follow it exactley and villians not at all. Not sure if it's true or not but it is a fun theory and it has helped my designs quite a bit. There are even tools available for measuring and layouts. Amazon.com has a few books about the subject the best I've found is "The Power of Limits" by Gyorgy Doczi


otaku posted Sat, 01 December 2001 at 1:10 PM

There is also a numbers theory along the same line called the Fibonacci sequence there was a movie called pi by Darren Aronofsky


tasmanet posted Sun, 02 December 2001 at 12:45 AM

There are some people out there Otaku who just dont get it. "It's not so much about beauty but about the more something differse from the equation the brain says it's defective" Just about sums it up. Doozy how abot some links to the debunkers ??


doozy posted Mon, 03 December 2001 at 9:01 AM

Attached Link: http://www.umcs.maine.edu/~markov/GoldenRatio.pdf

OK, there's two things here. One: the golden section occurs naturally, in plants, in seashells, even in the joints of your fingers. There's no objection to that.

Two: the golden section is "more beautiful", was used in construction of the Parthenon, or by Leonardo in "The Last Supper", etc. That's the one that is bunk. Popular bunk, but still bunk.

G. Markowsky. "Misconceptions about the Golden Ratio." College Mathematics Journal, vol. 23 (1992) pp. 2--19.
on-line, see the link above.

"How to Find the Golden Number without really trying."
Roger Fischler, Fibonacci Quarterly, 1981, Vol 19, pp 406--410.
description:
Another important paper that points out how taking measurements and averaging them will almost always produce an average near Phi. Case studies are data about the Great Pyramid of Cheops and the various theories propounded to explain its dimensions, the golden section in architecture, its use by Le Corbusier and Seurat and in the visual arts. He concludes that several of the works that purport to show Phi was used are, in fact, fallacious and "without any foundation whatever".