Are we all orphans? Those bad news about MC gave me creeps! I remember very well what happened with VistaPro4 after it was sold to RomTech: NO MORE upgrades! So I've moved to Bryce and also to Poser, and kept waiting for major upgrades. Unless MC sells both of them to a strong willing company, our chances seems very poor. I wish luck for those 100 employees fired just 2 weeks from Christmas and TONS OF BAD LUCK FOR THOSE GREEDY MC BASTARDS!!