Okay...got home from my "merry 'lil christmas" with the clown. My business is doing a bit better, and was looking in this forum, when, I came across another PWFW update notice. Since, finances are a bit better...whew...sigh...I decided to go to PWFW and sign up as a subscriber. I loved the old one, dontcha know? What I see in this forum is some wonderfully textured stuff. Beautiful, like the old stuff that I could just look at with only the internet eye popup between me and each group of stuff. Bah, humbug!!! I got 3 to 4 popups...all of a "credit card" or, "check your credit, now" nature for each link i clicked. (Yes, i did double check...No, i was not at a warez site.) What I did see of the site, between popups was a very, very, very basic html site. No frills, nothing pretty. Even the colors were just basic...all links, simply centered. And, I think, recollecting, the downloads took a huge long time at the old PWFW. That is one of the reasons we were given...bandwidth...for the new "pay" site. Guess what???? I did download their "alley"...one of the "freebies". It took about 30 minutes for a couple of mbs. I miss the old one...pwfw...with actual stuff we could look at while being bogged down by the server. I ventured there, tonight, with every good christmas intention of signing up. Nope, not anymore. IMHO....even with the wonderful looking stuff....It is badly designed site. I thought they were gonna have a T1 server...guess not. That site reminded me of something out of the eighties...or, in warezland. Pop...Pop...Poppi!!!! And, to all a good night.