Forum: Photography


Subject: Sharp optics not an option - switching to the heavy equipment

Finder opened this issue on Jan 08, 2002 ยท 11 posts


Finder posted Tue, 08 January 2002 at 10:30 PM

OK, I'm going for high-res. I had to retire the beloved Yashica rangefinder camera (Hence my choice of 'handles': "Finder") due to inferior optics. I can't ignore it any more. Just as soon as I can I'll get a Leica, or Voitlander, or Contax .. maybe Hexar.., or some other QUIET, high-performance rangefinder camera; but until then, sharp optics are mandatory. I'm switching to an old Minolta SLR (70s vintage) with killer Rokkor optics. Sharp optics - even though every time the shutter is released on an SRT101 it sounds like someone's cocking a machine gun! It's RUINING my candids! The image, by the way, is the Milwaukee Art Museum. The artwork pictured here is the Santiago Calatrava-designed Quadracci Pavilion. This thing opens up into a big freaky thing - I just can't explain it. Dig it. Joe

dreamsosweet posted Tue, 08 January 2002 at 11:31 PM

Cool picture, looks almost sci-fi, and the purple-y monochrome is great! They had a pic of this in the paper here not long ago, in an article on museum/aquarium architecture (we're getting a huge new aquarium) - it was taken at night and was all gold and darkness, and (if I remember correctly) was opened up - I do remember thinking, man that's awesome, they'll never build anything like that here, it'll just be another square box! :-P


Finder posted Tue, 08 January 2002 at 11:43 PM

Yup, It's pretty sci-fi, all right. But what'ya gotta picture is that this huge thing moves - I'm say'n it UNFOLDS into a bizarre giant bird-thing. It's huge! This high-res sample JPG file unpacks into a 6Mb beast. I hope your RAM can handle it. Oh! Another way I'm going hi-res is this: I've been in the habit of using high speed film. I've been going for depth of field (so I don't have to focus as carefully), and higher shutter speeds (so I don't have to use a tripod). Lately I've been learning the value of planning, and thinking-through the exposure process - the value of using a tripod, and thinking-through depth-of-field vs. exposure time optimization. I think that plenty of my shots that slightly lack a certain sharpness, or 'just don't sparkle' were never properly diagnosed as CAMERA (read 'photographer')-INDUCED MOTION BLUR! The grain in 400ASA or 800ASA film - which, if I read correctly, are actually "dye clouds" in this type - causes not only 'lack of resolution', but rather DISFUGURES the details. Slower films have not only a 'finer' grain, but a smoother grain structure. This image was recorded on Fuji one-hundred speed print film. I can see now that if the speed isn't required, and the optics can cut-the-mustard, then the fine grain offers an appreceable advantage (better evidenced in the actual photographic print). I'm just begining to develop a style of photography. I don't mean composition - I mean, technically speaking, the actual aquisition of the image. An eye for composition is another matter - that's where I would be more likely to fail. Am I talking too much?


Finder posted Wed, 09 January 2002 at 12:08 AM

No, I don't mind. That's exactly what I dicked-around for about an HOUR-AND-A-HALF trying to achieve. How did you do that ?! Anxoiusly waiting, Joe ...


Rork1973 posted Wed, 09 January 2002 at 6:42 AM

Nice stuff, Finder.....know what you mean, cause my F4 (and my previous Nikons too) sound like I'm trying to gun someone down, especially in continous mode :) And yes, it does ruin candits. That's the only thing I don't like about my camera, and makes me think about changing sometime in the future. A few weeks ago I was like the center of attention with my f4 and 180mm ED telephoto at a Xmas fair....I saw some awesome scenes, but people were staring at me when I aimed at them. =(


Rork1973 posted Wed, 09 January 2002 at 8:22 PM

Pssst......despeckle first, resize, unsharpen and then correct the color with hue/saturation for precize work or levels or even varations to do it faster. :) Hope that helps....lemme know if you need anymore info. Btw Alpha, 100 % true...oh, about the sound I meant that the shutter sound is just too loud with Nikon =( Guess that's a big advantage with your camera, Alpha :)


Finder posted Wed, 09 January 2002 at 8:45 PM

(What's Alpha running?)


Finder posted Wed, 09 January 2002 at 10:32 PM

Nikor. Yup, that aught'a do it for World-class sharpness - and they'll do it with a wide open aperature! I love my Yashica Electro 35, but you have to stop it down to at least F/4 or better for a crisp one. I was reading about these deep sky wide field astrophotographers running Nikors ..was it a 90mm f/1.4? ..Something like that - and they run'm wide open!. I want a Leica. Small, quiet, reliable - with that Zeiss glass. Oh-yeah! Joe


Rork1973 posted Thu, 10 January 2002 at 7:00 AM

Here's a try:

Rork1973 posted Thu, 10 January 2002 at 7:02 AM

crap, compressed it too much....


Rork1973 posted Thu, 10 January 2002 at 12:20 PM

Okay, less compression :P