Hi guys n gals. It seems that apart from the new re-writer i'm back in business. yay. Had to get an engineer out plus re-install windows,[then find the modem which wanted to hide for a while]. Boy have I got some reading to do to catch up! Now I can load Vue 4 and Poser 4 that I got for crimbo and I'll be a happy bunny! My sympathies to anyone who's had this problem before, it's so frustrating! And how can anyone be so sick as to make these bugs for fun?