From the PFO forum...Larry Weinberg wrote: ------------------------------------------------- Due to the delays of the MetaCreations restructuring, I've decided to UNOFFICIALLY post the latest build of our Poser 4 patch. Contact me directly for problems with this. Do not call MetaCreations. Their tech support cannot help with this patch. Patches are at: http://host-1.ghosteffects.com/poser/patch/patch.html My email is larry@ghosteffects.com Happy Hollidays... -------------------------------------------------