I've been working on the young queen's face, and it aint easy! I probably need to make a different texture to make her look more pale. She WAS a red head, - so that's why I've used the standard Poser hair, just ransmapped it. That isn't correct either. The dress is Serges polonaise dress with my texture ( www.poserfashion,net), but it's not correctly conformed, - because it's not the dress she'll wear for the coronation. She wore a red robe, - with a matching cloak (work in progress in Amapi) I've posed her now in the approx way she will be seated on the coronation chair (work in progress too) Thoughts so far?? And the questions... *g* She had long, red hair. And during the coronation it was parted in the middle, - but was a lot longer than this. the color was lighter too... anybody know of a hair like that?? This is her face when she was 25 (needs a bit more work, - but isn't all THAT far off), - how can I best make her younger and older?? And I still wonder about the cloak (or train). I don't seem to be able to plan how to make it posable, so any hints in that direction would be nice. You see, I can't really fanthom how to group it, - because when she sits it wraps all around her, - and should prolly have hands, abdomen, - in short all bodyparts except the head! *lol* So, - should I simply model it on her sitting, - fully clothed in her new dress?? Thanks for all input, Britt