This is the problem I asked about a while back. The solustions offered were to re-load Poser and hope for the best, use the joint editor or a modeling app... Ok, I have tried re-loading. But the second I decode the P4WWG I get this twisted index finger crap. The joint editor is of no use. The mesh of the index1 section of ech hane is bent/twisted. I am learning RDS, but not fast enough to fix this. Anyone with an idea will win my gratitude... that and a really good recipe for sweet and sour cat... If needed I will send whatever is needed to who ever can fix this little problem. (Pan, I don't know how, but I am sure your cat did it!)