This is an on going problem i have been having . I will try to explain hopeing that someone will understand this and be able to tell me what im missing. Poser export render as Wavefront OBJ . a screnn comes up SELECT RANGE OF FRAMES . 0 Single 0 Multiframe export . I selected Single . HIERARCHY SELECTION Select items to include - universe -Ground -Figure 1 I selected figure 1 and all of the figures sub catagories selected with it. Next Box is SELECTION BOX -Include body part names in polygon groups - use extract internal except spaces. - X include figure names in polygon groups - Include existing groups in polygon groups -X weld body part seams -As morph target (no world transformations) The 2 X's indicate which ones are selected automatically . This i have no idea which others i need to check or if they are ok. After all that mess in poser . I open bryce 4.0 . From the file tab i select import object . Select the OBJ that was exported from poser and i get a .DLL error. Error: Bryce 4 error Bryce 4 will now close . This is becoming very frustrating if u can help pls pls let let me know . I appreciate any help u may offer . and i hope u can understand this . thankx a million , Mang :)