I was just looking through some old CDr's I had backed up from about a year ago the other day. I was looking for Seagulls to go in my other WIP image. Suddenly, I find something called Balaan Tower. And the result is the attached image. Balaan Tower by Matt Textures by Symphony Pioneer Fence by SAMS 3D Well is from Camelot Collection Everything else is Vue. Going to add a shriveled, humped man in a black robe leaning on a staff standing in the doorway, and probably more random grass bits and weeds to improve reality factor :) BTW, learned a nice way to put the scattered plants in scene to give detail. 1. Render to preview window. 2. Set preview window settings to Show Last Render in Back. 3. Hide all layers containing items 4. Select new, empty layer in world brower. 5. Start dropping plants in scene. They will show up "on top" of the previous render in the camera window. Drag them around in the three other windows to the desired position as viewed in the Camera window. 6. Test render as needed :) Made it easy for me to drop plants in the scene where they needed to be to match spots of "grass" on the ground texture. I also used my favorite "Guitta" technique of changing the coloring on the Bonny Clumbs to black flowers. Thanks to all for comments - this is for me, a few coworkers, and our group that I share these. Best hobby I ever found :) Cheers, Greg PS - Any Everquest players in the group?