One step at a time :) This was just one of those "what if I" moments that worked :) Very simple: Make the cat eyeball material and pupil material transparant (crank all trans settings to max) Make a ball. Place ball in left eye socket. Name this ball L_outer_eye and make transparant but very shiny. Copy. Create new ball, paste. Make slightly smaller, and name L_inner_eye. Make less shiny. Parant L_inner_eye to head. Parant L_outer_eye to left inner_eye. Repeat for right eye. Texturing will be left as an exercise for the student. Above pic has described eyeball arrangement for both cats - front cat has no morphs and default cat texture. Back cat has morphs from Bloodsong's? kitten, Lyne's wildcat and the 9-lives cat. Lyne's Tarvis texture. Eyeball texture from my archive - who knows where it came from at this point. What do you guys think? no post work on this render, obviously. Lyrra