No, this is not an announcement for a free download. It is a comment in regards to my free download.

I rarely visit the forums to socialize but mostly to ask technical questions usually in the Poser Technical forum. But when I do visit the forums to do the former I am mostly welcomed with accusatory and sometimes offensive remarks to my person.

My very ever first free clothing item, HellAndBack, that "blasphemous" morphing undergarment, received such a beating in one of the forums that people forgot the generous act behind it.

I've been so very often accused of plotting some dubious marketing trick. Or playing a practical "joke." Offering people bogus download opportunities only later it will be sold for "$10,000" somewhere. Also for the record, no, I am not trying to infect anyone's computer with some exotic virus. The HellAndBack thread alone is far more interesting.

You see, I would like to point out that people who contributes to the free stuff section suffers from this rare disease called "kindness." It sometimes can be quite debilitating. For example, I got slapped with a huge bill by my hosting service for providing "free stuff" for the community here. A very high fee that will take me sometime to pay. Hence the commercial move (and no, unfortunately, this is not some BS I made up as an excuse.)

And yet, I still managed to provide my latest item LaSeduzione (which I woked very hard for and pay many attention to detail) for free, albeit now, a limited time only.

I am not seeking sympathy nor a pat in the back nor endless words of compliments. I merely like to state that the very people who kept the Free Stuff section full are actually doing the community a very BIG favor. Isn't the free downloads that drive many people here in the first place.

My point being, before cutting my body into pieces and decorating the forums with it, kindly take the issue directly to me first. If I am unreacheable by IM, you can reach me at webmaster@uzilite.com. The latter being a better means of communicating with me.

The issue with La Seduzione:

1. The side was pulled down temporarily by the hosting service after the first few hours of the launch because of the sudden surge in bandwith.

2. The .EXE file is a Flash movie stand alone application. It also contains coupons to get the 10 next new clothing items for free from uzilite.com (just joking.)

3. I don't even know what is the STD(1).VBS. I suspect it comes from the tripod site.

4. The World Wide Web is populated with "cookies." A fact of life. About 125% website out there places "cookies" on your browsers.

5. Marque and others, especially to Margue, as a favor to you and to show that I read, comprehend and symphatize with your complaints, from now on there will be no more uzilite.com free downloads. So you really should not worry anymore in the future. That's one paranoia gone for you.

6. If you'd like to see a non-flash page for the free download, pay me then I will make a special one just for you. Like, dude, I am, like, giving it to you guys for free already!?!

7. I think Briney Spear is hot.

It seems for every free downloads offer I make I get abused, either from this community or my hosting service and sometimes from the jerk sitting across my room.

I would not mind so much if it was a critique about my modeling skills or my art work (in fact I encourage that kind of criticism) or even grammar correction for my pur Engleeshz but when it directs to my character as a person that is another matter.

Now on to my love life problems. There's this tall brunette, very beautiful. she's French and.....

If you are going to respond to this thread kindly begin with: "Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful..."

Sayonara

Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful.... ok, here's my .02 g First, thank you for everything you've given Second, I don't blame you one bit Third, make room for me because I'll be in the shit house too! ROTFLMAO

Wusamah, you handsome, beautiful thing you...I applaude your creativity and thank you for the beautiful free downloads you shared with us.

My idea of rebooting is kicking somebody in the butt twice!

I too would like to thank you for your generous items. They are way above quality I expect from free items. Thanks daeve oh yes, and you are handsome and beautiful.

I'm sorry you were hassled so much. I somehow missed that entire thread. I've never seen your hellandback outfit. Was I out of town during that time? I've been here by my computer all year.

Wusamah, What you offered was sooo awesome and I am sooo thankful. I was estatic when I open it and saw all the beautiful things for Vicki that you so kindly gave for free. It is wardrobe in itself. I myself am indebted because without people like you my Vicki would be stark Naked. Beautiful work and I pray you will continue???

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Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful...and if you want me to continue it will be $4.99 a minute (joking, its $2.99) First, I want to say thank you very much. I absolutely love all your items. I also want to say thank you for making them free. I want to reply to your comments. 1. I too had to find a new host due to bandwidth over-use. I have come to expect that with poser downloads. 2. The .EXE file did give me some pause. Rightfully so people are kind of paranoid of downloading an .EXE file. Perhaps a text file saying what the .EXE was probably would have helped. 3. That virus that only infect IE with Visual Basic Scripting activated. VBS lets in most of the viruses in. It was from the Tripod site. Shame on them. 4. The cookies problem one person was complaining about was their browser screwing up. It is their problem, not yours. 5. I am really sad to hear that you are not going to make any more free items. I will just have to cherish the ones that I already have. And, when dealing with difficult people, I remember the line "... you can please some of the people some of the time." 6. I like your flash pages. I also recently got high speed internet so they come down fast. I can understand the people with 56k being a little upset. But, Patience is a virtue. I remember 56k downloads. 7. Britany Spears is hot no doubt. well thats my two cents and a whole dollar.

Ditto on the praise. Your stuff is incredible. After reading through that thread, I can understand how you probably feel pretty beat. I was gonna make a statement about one particular person who posted to that thread, but I'm not. That would make this message about them and it's really about you. I for one love the stuff you make. And being somebody in the real world who pays for bandwidth, I understand the trouble with hosts and am more than willing to be patient and wait for what your talent has made. I also saw a lot of people posting praise in that thread and you certainly can add me to that list.

Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful...having said that.

Thanks for the freebies. When people hassle you politely invite them to go and copulate with themselves. It works for me.

Well, Are You?? :-0 Beauty comes from within & spills out onto the Shell called the body... So, Yeah! You are Handsome!! ;-) A big thank you for the Amazing stuff you so generously donated!! Since, i'm learning modeling from my bro Viomar, i can attest to the fact that it's lots of work! Especially Clothes! So i Salute your Brilliant efforts!! Well, make sure to let us know where & when to get more of your Goodies(Even commercial). Be well!! Anik(Tall brunette who happens to be French & happily married!) ;-)

"Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful..." I thought your response, as posted in the forum just now, bespeaks a great maturity. Well spoken! I'm sorry the behavior of the few will deprive us all.

Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful... why does this happen so dam often? One person f's it up for everyone else. Now we dont get anymore wonderful freebies from you..which BTW I looked forward to with baited breath. You presentations were inovative and fun and I for one am sorry you got so many hassles. thank you very much. I look forward to your items you will be selling.

Handsome and beautiful<-ditto Please make more stuff.....Please make some of it freebie....but I would consider paying for the rest, your stuff seems to be that good....I just like freebies...it harks back to the excitement I always felt opening the toy surprise in the CrackerJacks....(I had a very boring childhood) Scarab<-diabetic and toothless from eating that crap....still have the secret decoder ring and the flipbooks...

Oh handsome and beautiful one (from a long ago brunette who can only speak French with a Texas accent, but who is still "lovely"), I want to thank you and say that I was a bit disappointed at the slamming you got. How ungrateful!

"Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful..." Thanks for the great download.... People should recognize your "niceness" rather than griping like they're owed something. ...much appreciated...:)

Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful...and it's a shame that there are not more people like you. Don't feel too aweful, you aren't the only one who's been slammed in this forum. Some folkes around here are pretty punchy 24/7. Britney Spears IS Hot I enjoy your freestuff, please make more and just don't give it to mean people. Mean people suck.

Everyone notices the jerk... that is what they thrive on. The attention they get. A spot light for them alone while the rest of us pass by unoticed and forgotten when the battle wages. We pay the price. It gets so damn tiring. I've only been here for around 6 months now and it's been one battle after another. Some very talented people don't post anymore or give things away. I don't blame them... but I do miss them. Good night... Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful...

Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful....
Your work is excellent, your generosity above reproach. It would be sad if you were to abandon either based on the meaningless drivel of the small and the silly. Heed these words of wisdom.

"If I care to listen to every criticism, let alone act on them, then this shop may as well be closed for all other businesses. I have learned to do my best, and if the end result is good then I do not care for any criticism, but if the end result is not good, then even the praise of ten angels would not make the difference."

~ Abraham Lincoln ~

"In judging others, folks will work overtime for no pay."

~ Charles Edwin Carruthers ~

"Reviewers are usually people who would have been, poets, historians, biographer, if they could. They have tried their talents at one thing or another and have failed; therefore they turn critic."

~ Samuel Taylor Coleridge ~

"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes."

~ Source Unknown ~

"It is the nature of the artist to mind excessively what is said about him. Literature is strewn with the wreckage of men who have minded beyond reason the opinions of others."

~ Virginia Woolf ~

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken

I almost wrote a reply to that original thread when I saw how many people were complaining about having trouble getting something for FREE. I got a small dose of that when Questor was having some trouble with his server that was hosting my Vickybuster texture. People wrote to me angrily asking why the download links didn't work, and some wanted to send it to them directly. I'm sorry to hear about all of this, and I understand your feelings. People ought to just be thankful that they're getting something for free before mouthing off. Take care (and thank you for the nice comments you've given me as well, I appreciate them very much). SnowS Hoping his pictures are worth 1001 words

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I do not speak as a representative of DAZ, I speak only as a long-time member here. Be nice (and quit lying about DAZ) and I'll be nice too.

Well folks it seems someone else understands where we at Dynagrind were coming from a while ago. Not enough of the "cash cows" share with the community in a "free" way. And once again one of us "Free Stuff" guys has gotten fed up with all the crap and complaints. I got a new host for Dynagrind.com and the unlimited bandwidth saved me paying all the extra cash. We still do freestuff but not as much anymore. Sorry to see you had the problems you did man. Join the club. :)

and damn kind. Thanks for the stuff you've provided. It's certainly very high quality work. It's a shame people bitch about getting things that are free, but if you can ignore them, you're on the right track. I'm sorry to hear that you've incurred a large bill and that you'll have to cut down on the kindness, but I appreciate what you've given thus far and will look forward to your new items regardless. It's been fun. Don't let the whiners get to you.

Doooo i haveeeee ta???? well okay Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful. There now i said it. :) Your work is TOP NOTCH! I really like the pieces you have done and realllllly wanted this one.. but missed it due to the fact that I wasn't online today .. (hubby sleeps in room with computer) Don't let people get you down. Most people appreciate your efforts and enjoy your work. Don't stop please? Storm

Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful! :) I never panic about viruses, but I did ask in the thread what they were talking about. I did get to download the outfit, and I am so glad I did. So thank you from the bottom of my heart, for what you gave freely. I must admit, just when I find something good, it disappears :( This is the first I have seen of your work, and it is wonderful. Thank you once again, pokeydots

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Wusamah, you truly are handsome and beautiful, inside and out :) I was not able to get any of your free downloads simply because I wasn't at the right place at the right time, but that's okay :) That's not why I'm writing this post :) I just wanted to thank you for being generous with your time and your hard work. You and anyone else that provides free items for the communities are a treasure and should be treated as such. So, I am sorry that the few once again has messed up something good for the many...but do what you have to do. We'll all still love you anyway, no matter what you decide, simply because you cared to give away rather then sell at one point in time :) I'm sorry you were given a hassle. I wish it had not happened, but people being people, I'm really not surprised, which is a sad thing. And people wonder why freebies are disappearing at an alarming rate...if it's not bandwidth issues, it's the breaking of a spirit. Pendy

Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful... I like your stuff and if you are going commercial I will probably buy it. I have one question through: Will you make some matching clothing for the handsome and beautiful Mike also? ;)

Wusamah, I have no idea if you are handsome and beautiful, but one thing I do know...I understand you !!! Getting slammed one or another way for giving away free stuff seems to be normal praxis at certain sites. Some people seems to forget the hart work put into those free things and forget that you or anybody else offers time and sometimes money to make those free things available. Well, when greed graps certain people....

Wusamah, I have no idea if you are physically handsome but your free sharing was an act of beauty. I wish I had gotten to download any of your stuff, I had seen them but too late. A lot of people do BITCH about free stuff. Please ignore them and keep doing your own thing. :) many people appreciate your work. The craftmanship (I say judging from renders) is way beyond average. Goodluck with the love life.

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Wusamah, like a broken record with these replies, you are so handsome and beautiful. I applaud you on your FLASH websites, FREE products, and unbelievable creativity. Since I've become involved with Poser and Renderosity.com, your name has been plastered all over the place. I managed to get in on your new La Seduzione product (which I think is fantastic). F all those who bitch and moan- we all know who the real artists are around here. You're a trooper. -MAYHEM

don't let'm get you down bud.it's like my dad says,there no shortage of a-holes in this world.i think it occurs even more on the internet because they know you can't reach through the screen and smack the hell out of them.

Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful... smiles That said I thank you bunches for the GREAT freestuff, and I look forward to buying things that you will sell in the future! :O) About those that constanly complain about freestuff... I hear it all the time, it's usually never by people complaining about the actual stuff but how they have to go about getting it... (on my website they have to click 3 whole links!) don't worry about them they will always complain... Cookie

hi, h & b 1, it seems some people believe that they r due things as of right, and if they can not get what they want in a hurry then they kick up a stink, free is free even if it takes a little time, i wonder how long it would have taken these individuals to make the items u freely gave away, from me many thanks, i would love to hear that u change your mind ,but u must do as u feel

Wusamah, I have truly enjoyed both your flash presentations and your generous offers so far - please don't let these complaints spoil the fun for all the rest who appreciate your efforts :) I, for one, spent my entire office hours yesterday refreshing the tripod page, waiting for the download to appear - I'm glad we are 'only' twelve hours apart :) Jon PS Excuse me skipping the obligatory 'handsome and beautiful' part - I feel your art and behaviour speak for itself :)

Mr HandsomeBeautiful man, I am very sorry about everything. I read some of that thread and ... sorry. Paula PS: your flash is some of the best I have seen. Keep it up!

Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful... Thank you so much for sharing your creations with us. I can understand the way you're feeling now and I am sorry you had to go through this. Wishing you nothing but the best, -Eowyn

I feel your pain. I also discontinued creating 'free stuff' after my experiences here. A few turds seem to often spoil things for the majority. Britney Spears is a repulsive pig.

Wusama kawaii desu 8 ) thank you for all the trouble you've gone through. It'd be nice if greed and "me me me" wasn't all there was in the world.. but there we are.. you Storm, Trav, and many many others have all given so much only to be abused for it.. sigh and people wonder why there's so little still being given away.... CHeers

Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful... I just wanted to join in and encourage a fellow Flash user.......

How can I resist using such a great subject line? Hope you make enough on your products to pay off the huge hosting bill. The great benefit of being a vendor is not getting rich, but maybe Poser isn't making us poorer! Well, unless we buy everybody else's stuff... By the way, Jaager, SnowSultan and AprilYSH, you are handsome and beautiful, too.

Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful....giggle... I thought your free stuff was great...unfortunately I was an idiot and thought..."i don't have time to download it now, I'll come back and get it later"...and later...it was gone :( I have been to your site and although i don't usually like Flash sites, I find yours to be very well done. If you intend to sell your clothing items, I will definately be putting some of them on my wish list until I can afford them because they looked fabulous. As a mater of fact, I was planning a piece using that shirt and scarf but they were the things I went back to find that were gone. Keep up the good work! And Thank You!!!

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So handsome, so so beautiful, Thank you for the free downloads that you have offered, the items are beautiful and quite unique to the Vicky garb be it commercial or free. The Flash presentations were fascinating. People should appreciate free-it is right there in the very word free, a gift, something to share with the community. I am sorry you have been so slagged that you are put off of making more items gratis. Best of luck to you in the future.

Ahhhhh....I love it how the whiners about free stuff can defend thier right to whine...and then complain when the recipient (Wusamah) of thier spoiled rotten, gimme-gimme-gimme attitude gets pissed about it. Many thanks to all the whiners and complainers for the loss of all the great free stuff over the years they caused by making free stuff makers feel unappreciated for thier hard work. How I do appreciate you. (This would be sarcasm.)

Wusumah....you handsome and beautiful person you!! Thank you sincerely for all the amazing freebies you have provided us with despite the constant complaining of a few spoiled children who never learned to say Thank You. Personally....I loved the Flash instructions included in the zip. I enjoy your Flash work alot and thanks to you...I am picking my flash books back up. ;o)

I'll be waiting in line when your stuff hits the Marketplace.

Looks like another 'lovefest' brewing? I guess there are 2 'camps' regarding how one might receive a gift that is 'less than perfect'. 2 schools of thought on the proper response one should give when faced with someone who gives a gift.. but doesn't fulfill some narrow minded, preconceived expectations of the 'requirements' that an arbitrary receiver of the gift might demand. Wusamah, I think that you should institute a 'double your money back' policy for anyone who's not happy with your free offerings, or anyone who presumes to tell you that you shouldn't use Flash, because they don't happen to like it, you handsome, beautiful person, you.

You know something, I think some people would be lost without the ability to give away their free stuff then go strutting around, and complaining about whiners. that says you agree that there ARE whiners in the first place. that's what most freestuff givers are stumped about! have you thought about it in a real life scenario? you bake a cake, you take it to work, leave it in the kitchen with a note saying "please enjoy the cake, no need to pay, it's on me!" two people pass by your desk and one of them is saying to the other, "i can't believe that person who left the cake didn't bother to bring a knife, plates and spoons!" shock! THEN and ONLY THEN does the cake baker get all uppity about his cake. he says "well, at least i even made the cake. sniff sniff next time i won't bother" and THEN the two people pass by again saying, "guess what, that snobby cake baker has threatened not to bring more cake! what a bloody show off. he just made that cake so he can strut about and threaten us with no more cake!" shakes head i have NOT seen any freestuff giver get all snobby BEFORE they were abused. if you have witnessed this, who the heck is it??? are you sure you aren't painting everyone with the same brush from one encounter with a specific individual? many threads now i've seen a few people complain about the freestuff givers complaining about user's complaints! they seem to have an axe to grind there and can't let it go. we've tried to figure out technical solutions for it (classifying freebies better) but they would rather continue to grind. unfortunately, they are grinding away at real people, not an unfeeling whetstone.

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a sweet disorder in the dress kindles in clothes a wantoness,
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You go girl! That was a good post, AprilYSH.

"And look! That snotnosed baker brought cake when we SPECIFICALLY requested cupcakes!!!" LOL -- I think we've all seen variations on that one as well, right?

You know, just a small second thought..... I used to be involved with this guy whose family had a particularly bizarre set of traditions around Christmas. Instead of getting, say, his mother a robe, he'd buy three of them, wrap one, let her open it, then show her options 2 and 3. She'd pick one, and he'd return the other two to the store. Now I admit, I can see a certain practicality in that. But when I bought him a DVD player and a set of carving knives, both brands that he had very specifically asked for, only to see them both returned "because I can get you a better deal on these someplace else", I figured, screw it, what's the use? It wasn't a gift anymore, it was... well, a non-gift at that point, I guess. Bottom line? It's a gift, people. If it's not the right size or the right colour or the right this or the right that, no one says you have to download it. If it's not available because of bandwidth, send the donor an e-mail and ask real pretty if he/she will send it to you. Sometimes they will, just cause you asked so nice. If it doesn't work the way you think it should, send them an e-mail and explain what the problem is. Maybe it's something they hadn't figured on when they built it. If there's something seriously wrong with it, send them an e-mail and tell them. And by the same token, if it's something really nice, send them an e-mail and tell them. It takes all of ten seconds to do. And I don't think any of us are under such tight schedules that we can't write a short note.

heh Wonderfully stated April and VS.

That is the attitude that I often see from SOME free stuff contributors.

Who? Please do list here the folks that you have seen post thier free contributions and demand praise for it? All I see here is someone being pissed about being constantly slammed when they contribute to free stuff. Nobody asking to jump thru hoops....nobody expecting any Thank You....nobody doing anything but getting pissed about being berated because thier gift didn't suit the standards of some spoiled children.

So...who? I'm genuinely curious to see a list of these free stuff contributors who demand all these things you imply.

"i have NOT seen any freestuff giver get all snobby BEFORE they were abused. if you have witnessed this, who the heck is it??? " Exactly, I'd like to know too. And why do the receivers of these "gifts" have to complain at all? I recently downloaded several fairly large files that turned out to be corrupted zips, but I didn't tear into the creator with angry e-mails or threatening IMs. Just because we may have the right or even the reason to complain doesn't mean we always should. I'll say it again, we should be thankful that these items are free AT ALL. SnowS

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I do not speak as a representative of DAZ, I speak only as a long-time member here. Be nice (and quit lying about DAZ) and I'll be nice too.

ronknights, if you could name even ONE contributor who does that, I might go through the trouble of trying to see your point of view....

That's not much of an answer. If you use this thread as an example it feels like you are also saying wusamah doesn't have the right or the reason to be upset (which he does) shrug I fail to understand you - again.

Well, well, well Eowyn...seems like you and I have the same problem.....

Dear generous, handsome, beautiful, wise, outstanding, full of knowledge, prince of donators wusamah, and whatever you like to be, big thanks for your freebies - this is really quality stuff, and in comparison to some store releases it's even more professional!(I admit, I wouldn't be able to do anything like that) I've got some experience with online publishing and I may assure you, whatever you try to get perfect, there's always an idiot who won't realize it. So please ignore the ignorants (those who cannot handle a simple cookie) and enjoy the praise of the silent majority.

No list? I thought not. Just an over obvious attempt at a feint to avoid the providing of a answer to the question posed.

shrugs along with Eowyn and Skygirl

"Wusamah, you're ugly and spotty" But you're stuff's damn cool! It's some of the best flash I've seen, (and I've looked :) I especially like the later ones with a choice of "beats" must take a while to get it to loop like that. Personaly I'm glad of every crumb of cake and bit of free stuff I get. For a start it means I don't have to cook, (argh, Deja Vu... :) but then I also carry a knife, because while free cake is not to be sniffed at, I draw the line at teeth marks... :P I look forward with baited breath, (must be the crumbs :) to 3.0, you just know it's going to be cool... later jb

Hi nikita, not enough chears for your homepage? OK, its'one of the best in the community. Should I really list up all neurotic kids that are playing around here? Nope. Wusamah donated his work to the community, and as far as I can evaluate it, it's really great stuff. Even if he has intended some merchandising for his site, it's a fair deal, because it's free. And if you are annoyed by pop up's and java scripts, simply click it away or disable it. This is Internet, not your local drive. Now ronk, I've read it! Doesn't mean that I wan't to flame. But sometimes it's really a good idea to get a little more into details before post a complaint. If you have to post a download with high bandwidth you often have to accept some compromises. This means that the free hosting is bundled with advertising, pop up's or advertising. We all have to pay our bills. This is the end my friend

Hi nikita,
not enough chears for your homepage? OK, its'one of the best in the community. Should I really list up all neurotic kids that are playing around here? Nope. Wusamah donated his work to the community, and as far as I can evaluate it, it's really great stuff. Even if he has intended some merchandising for his site, it's a fair deal, because it's free. And if you are annoyed by pop up's and java scripts, simply click it away or disable it. This is Internet, not your local drive.

Ummm...what?? I think you have me confused with another. :o

I really want a meaningful dialouge...really. Seems like you think that somebody who gives away free stuff has an attitude you find unacceptable. All I want is to know is: Who ?

OK, So now I've read the thread, bear with me, this may get technical. IE 6.0 (security patched) Tools-> Internet Options-> Privacy Setting: (Medium) "-Block third part cookies that do not have a compact privacy policy. -Block third party cookies that use personaly identifiable information without your implicit consent. -Block first party cookies that use personaly identifiable information without your implicit consent." Tools-> Internet Options-> Security. Internet: (custom level) DL + Run, Signed activeX controls enabled Script controls marked as safe, enabled unsigned & "unsafe" activeX disabled Java VM (High Safety) Software chanel permissions (Medium) Active scripting enabled script java applets enabled Navigate sub-frames across different domains, prompt Launch programs and files in Iframes, prompt Install desktop Items, prompt display mixed content, prompt Norton anti-virus corporate: version 7.50.846 scan engine 4.1.0.6 Virus defs file: 40213av 13 Feb 2002 (current) NAV Realtime protection enabled on Accessed or Modified, (scan on Create, Open, Move, Copy or Run) Bloodhound(TM) Heuristics virus detection technology enabled. Backup first, then repair/quarantine for both macros and non macro viruses. And now the meat :) Cookies are a fact of life, no cookies, no Hotmail, (amongst other things.) I have a shortcut to my "temporary internet items" on my desktop, I empty it manually every evening, including cookies. At no point, during yesterday or today, having visited both the uzilite "pointer" page and the tripod download page, did I get any popups. My browser is setup as defined above, I'm going directly through the firewall instead of through the web-cache like I'm supposed to. I have no other blocking software, and the firewall doesn't scan incoming traffic, that's handled at the desktop level by Norton. Both IE 6.0, and the consumer (3 month trial) version of Norton, that makes use of the same virus defs I use, are available for public download both from their respective companies, and from download.com. (The OEM version of Norton came preinstalled on my laptop direct from the factory.) This is pretty much a base spec, for "safe" computing in this day and age. Netscape only yesterday advised users to upgrade to the latest point release of thier software that fixes a significant security flaw. You are responsible for your own security, if you don't, can't or won't accept cookies, face the facts that a good 60-70% of the "public" internet is closed to you. Including all search engines, portal sites, and commercial web sites, that rely on cookies to track site usage and monitor returning visitors/customers for ad traffic, etc. You take your life in your hands when you venture off your own private subnet/computer, just as you do when you walk out of your own door. You computer literacy and/or lack of same is your responsibility, not that of the computer manufacturer, OS provider, site designer, or elected official. Just as it your responsibility to be aware of your surroundings outside of your door. It is not the job of the police to escort you to your car, and then drive you in convoy to your selected destination. If you are unable or unsure of how to configure your computer consult a professional, just as you would get a police/private appraisal of the state of your home secuurity. From a legal standpoint, accessing a web site, means the implicit acceptance of their online business practices, since accessing their site is an entirely volutary act on your part, including by accident and/or ommission. Such is the nature of the "connected" internet. Sites are neither required to have, or bound by any "privacy policy" they may have. Just as they are not required to maintain adequate security, except where mandated by goverment legislation. Such as the SEC mandated security statement for all publicly quoted companies that maintain a computer system. Outside of these requirements, security and privacy function as a result of the free market economy. Basically, if somebody puts a stack of hats on a pole and surrounds that with barbed wire and sharks, then places a sign in front saying "free hat", you download the hat at your own risk... later jb

That's it ! Thanks JB, may be I've been to lazy.

Hi ronk ! sorry, but your online connection is not as simple as your telephone! You have to adjust the security options of your browser to be sure that your configuration remains unmanipulated. I've have tested the link and nothing 'criminal' happened. May be that you need a little more practice with your browser settings. Please have a look on JB's remarks. He's quite rhight: Nobody cares about you when you are entering a unknown homesite. Internet has never been a 'safe' place. It has been anachistic from the mere beginning and you have to be aware that some hosting sites will try to manipulate your system. That's commom use, especially when free webspace is offered.

Well, in fact I still dont get it...Im really sorry, but I dont. Ive just returned from the Dragonayerie-site...nothing happend...no pop ups, no taking over my puter, no nothing...just another Poser site...easy to navigate, nice layout etc...now dont tell me we are talking about the thumb nail or should I say the way the girl poses on the thumb.....

Hmm... I clicked on the link too, went to see the site and had no problems whatsoever...?

Here either and I have my browser settings AND my firewall setting on high. Custom settings on the browser to accept cookies of course. ;)

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This is amazing! As I read this thread I noticed I was down to number 35. I thought to myself, "This far and nothing negative from ronknights or XXXXXX. What is going on here?" Then a few lines further and back to normal. Some things never change. But where is XXXXXX? I also went to the link. No popups or problems. Even downloaded New EVE3 while there. And finally, Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful... Thank you so much for the wonderful things. When I came upon that thread last night I just had to leave renderosity. Some are so ungrateful. Why?

Attached Link: http://www.download.com

Hi, I can see what he means, if you click to download the character pictured it fails to find the file, and then it defaults... If you have javascipt (active scripting in IE) turned on, then it launches 3 windows, spawns one *almost* full size across the desktop, (with the address bar turned off) and then asks you if you want to change your homepage. All of which I'm asuming is part of the default setup of thier host. It's exactly the same sort of thing that porn sites do. Annoying, but preventable. Just throw the word "blocker" into the search bar on the attached link. One of the results is called "popup dummy" later jb

I went back again. Last time I didn't even think to click on the pictures. I clicked on the links below the pictures and everything downloaded just fine. I tried to click a picture and the file wasn't found, but I didn't get the 3 windows. I am using IE 6.0 and scripting is on. I do use POPUP KILLER, but it doesn't indicate it is stopping them. Pretty strange.

WOW! Maybe we can all learn something here. I have attached some of my settings. Are these different then yours?

Before clicking on picture.....

After clicking on picture....

After clicking on the picture only one other window opened up and it is the same as the one in the main frame.

Hey Dude, if Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful, is all that you are asking for in return for your killer downloads, then I say it whole-heartedly.

Sorry you got "Jerked" around but I got to tell you, that white reflect map that came with your LaSeduzione item applied at 30% reflect to the skin makes for an awesome look! (Oh, there is a bit of red/text stuff or something in the reflect map that needs to get cleaned up if you use it this way, but it does work nicely. Just thought I would pass the thought on.)

Mega thanks again for sharing your stuff while you did.

Ron! No one is accusing you of Lying or being Nuts! Take a Deep breath! :-) From personal experience, so this is subjective! I've always had probs with IE... Every site that caused me similar probs with IE, worked fine with netscape! Only a very few would not show up at all in Netscape. But with version 6.2.1 everything is Dandy!! I know that some sites require "Java Console" enabled. And i know some folks will say that this can be a "Security" NoNo! Never had a virus since we've been on the Net... And using the Netcape Email since day one has avoided getting the .vbs ones! We also do a "Cookie" Cleanup on a regular basis! Really wish i could give you a Magic formula... It's all trial & error! Cause, no system is the same. Later! Anik

*My experience is this.

1.) I don't follow all the drama of all the freebies.*

So then you have no evidence? You just have this belief of freestuff giving abusers in your mind that has come to be real for you because you have repeated it often enough?

2.) I don't keep track of names.

So then you have no evidence? You just have this belief of freestuff giving abusers in your mind that has come to be real for you because you have repeated it often enough?

3.) Every day, at least once a day, or twice or more, someone comes off saying how ungrateful and abusive the receivers of their GIFTS are.

WHERE has this happened BEFORE that freestuff giver was abused? Give an example of someone being that way BEFORE they were abused? All the complaints we have thus far seen are freestuff givers who are only DEFENDING themselves and voicing hurt feelings AFTER they were abused by people taking their freestuff items.

*4.) I read stuff like
"Well if they don't want to look at Flash animations, tough! It's Free!"

"If they don't want to look at nudes, then they don't need to get my freebies."*

This is a fact. When you take something offered, you get the whole parcel as is. You cannot dictate HOW it is offered. "This is me, this is my item which I wish to share with you." What do you find wrong with that???

*"I don't respect anyone who objects to nudes."

"You can kiss my ass."*

If you can not give evidence of this attitude, those are words from YOUR OWN MIND. If that is in fact what you READ when people upload their free items, then IT IS YOUR PROBLEM.

*Someone bakes a cake, and then leaves it on a table at work.

She hangs around waiting for people to run over, cut the cake, and gush loudly over her generosity.*

Again, that is something YOU are reading into it. It is not proof against others here, it is proof of how YOU YOURSELF think.

*People sit down, eat the cake, and maybe no one even asks who made the cake.

The baker feels slighted and offended because no one thanked her.*

Again, that is something YOU are reading into it. It is not proof against others here, it is proof of how YOU YOURSELF think.

*Or if they know who baked the cake, they say "thanks," and she is offended because they didn't say anything more. Maybe she needed to hear that she's a first class baker.

Maybe the baker expected that people would do some ritual before they started eating the cake. Maybe they were supposed to ask permission first. Maybe she wanted them to read a poem she wrote. Who knows?

She gets offended because they merely sat down to eat the cake, and mumbled thank you between bites.

The baker is offended, and will never share another cake again.*

Again, that is something YOU are reading into it. It is not proof against others here, it is proof of how YOU YOURSELF think.

*That is the attitude that I often see from SOME free stuff contributors

Again, I have said all along that people who receive free stuff should not abuse the givers.*

You have given NO PROOF of this abuse.

Reply to that and stop evading the FACTS. Give FACTS, not opinion, and you will regain credibility.

I am talking about the attitude I see in this thread.

As we SAID, this "attitude" came to be AFTER these freestuff givers were abused. These people were good and happy before someone came along and said they were very bad for trying to share their free stuff in their bandwidth limited way. shock horror gasp

*And here is the link to the freebie item which threatens to take over my computer.

Jemma has the site. It's named DRAGONAYERIE

It doesn't matter if it didn't happen to you.

The invasive maneuvers still exist.

Those kind of popups are not the practice of a reputable web site host.

Those are the kind of popups used by warez people and crooks.*

This does NOT give an example of someone ABUSING users. Again, it is someone hampered by hosting limitations. She didn't come at you and abuse you. You didn't experience those popups until after you decided to take her freestuff offerings. And your assumption that she is among "warez people and crooks" is the height of pressumption.

Someone is offering their freestuff and you accuse them of being a warez kid and a crook! I am gobsmacked!

And yet, there is still no evidence of abuse by freestuff givers BEFORE they were themselves abused.

I didn't really care to get back to this. I know for a fact it would take a huge deal of time and effort to get your to rethink about stuff you have set in your mind. I remember how you came in the first time dictating how people should behave in the forums, which transferred to a thread in c&d where a big number of people finally got you to change your mind and you settled down and bent over backwards to show how well you could get down with them all. I did not participate in those threads but I read them.

And knowing a mind made up when I see one, I wish to leave it at this UNLESS YOU CAN GIVE PROOF.

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You don't seem like a bad guy.. but it appears that instead of rejoicing over the talent of Wusamah, you are jealous of the gratitude and compassion many of us feel for him? You make long accusations, which you won't substantiate, which are puncuated by a vaccuous disclaimer; "I don't support the abuse of free stuff makers" and you think this absolves you from taking responsibility for your accusations. You 'tee hee' at all calls for you to back up your wild accusations but go into detail about some isolated site that might be a problem.. but has nothing to do with the artist that you insult here. You are happy to do that because at least now the attention is on you, instead of praise or sympathy going to someone else. Carry on.

Hey man, I'd like to thank you for your free items although I did miss the LaSeduzione. Guess I wasnt clever enough. Ah well, keep up the good work.

Anyone who surfs with IE deserves to catch something nasty - that thing has more backdoors than Grand Central station. I'm beggining to think that the freestuff makers should stage a strike - I too got razzed while my freestuff was up. My fave negative comment complained that my character Shaun was poorly made and said that they wouldn't download anymore of my stuff. ??? and I care why? I also got grief about the naming of some of my Shades of Mike textures (apparantly the name Yakuza offended someone - what would you call an asian male texture with a huge red dragon tattoo?) I'm expecting to get grumbles when I release my first for sale character - and more b*tching when I start releasing 24 pairs of Adventurers outfits textures that I had originally started for freestuff. I'm not making any more freestuff until I've made back the $1000 bill for bandwith from jan. And people can just cope. I feel your pain - but there will always be someone who grouches about free stuff. Go figure. Lyrra "will texture for bandwidth" Madril

Lyrra I downloaded your Shades of Mike textures some time back, but didn't extract them until recently after I upgraded my computer. What a great selection! I honestly haven't used more than a couple, but I was tickled at the wide & whimsical variety of them! A belated thank you! I'll look forward to seeing your marketPlace entries.

Don't you hate it when people disrupt a thread to no end and then, when they've proven beyond all doubt that they're just looking for attention, they delete all their messages?

Ohhhh....thats why I thought that something was lacking when I came here this morning.....

The very truth of the matter is that you've proven that you don't care to have an open discussion. You ignore the facts before you and persist in your attitude, yet deny it at the same time. You come up against someone with a valid point who resists your attitude, then you create rules and expectations you are unwilling to follow yourself. There is nothing to be accomplished under these conditions. Except your misguided righteous indignation. Now go back to flattering yourselves, and feeling oh so much more important than those who receive your gifts. Ron

Oh man... Ron, you really do seem to see your own faults in others! You're accusing the others of the very same things you've been doing yourself all along. Are you really too blind to see that?

I might ask you the same question. You have chosen to ignore every positive thing I've said or done, and focus on what you don't want to hear. You have chosen to hold me to rules you don't practice yourself.

Wow Eowyn I was also amazed at how his 'summary' was such an accurate depiction of his own behavior! The last line, especially, illustrates how jealousy has been the motivating factor in this 'train wreck'. I'll 'quote' it here, since it's liable to disappear. "The very truth of the matter is that you've proven that you don't care to have an open discussion. You ignore the facts before you and persist in your attitude, yet deny it at the same time. You come up against someone with a valid point who resists your attitude, then you create rules and expectations you are unwilling to follow yourself. There is nothing to be accomplished under these conditions. Except your misguided righteous indignation. Now go back to flattering yourselves, and feeling oh so much more important than those who receive your gifts. Ron "

Hey Ron Why delete your messages at Wusamah's "free download" thread. Really ruin your credibility and reputation by running away like that. If the major public see that your opinions are wrong accept it. In your last post you wrote "you've proven that you don't care to have an open discussion", yet you deleted your messages? what kind of a hypocrite is that?

My opinions are not wrong. Let me try to illustrate in plain English, and keep this short. 1.) I create Free Stuff. I give of my time and energy for free. 2.) I ask nothing in return, nor do I expect people to pay a price, jump through hoops, etc. 3.) I've publicly stated my gratitude to people who provide Free Stuff. 4.) I've objected to people who practice abuse. That goes for givers and receivers. It is a TWO way street folks. 5.) I've objected to the bad attitude of my Free Stuff providers. I've quoted relevant pieces to illustrate my point. 6.) I've objected when people ask for evidence of my claims when they have failed to provide a shred of evidence in their own behalf. 7.) I might add that some people object to name calling. I have tried harder to avoid anything that people can call name calling. However, this quote is surely a violation: "what kind of a hypocrite is that?" 8.) I stand behind what I've said, and will continue to do so. 9.) I can recognize when people have no desire to have a two-way dialogue, but would rather whine, groan, bolster each other's egos. I can choose to walk away from that stuff. 10.) Many others have voiced opinions similar to and supporting my own. I also know many people don't bother because of the mob mentality they encounter. You don't scare me. You don't have what it takes. So back off. Ron

What we have here is our old friend: Miscommunication. Ron was just expressing about how some people use freebies for their own personal gain. I'm sure it wasn't directed to reflect poorly on wusamah. It was just brought up at the wrong time. The secret to happyness is timing. ;-) Wusamah has vented his frustration. We thanked him and apologised for the complainers. Now it's time to go back to Posing. .