Don't know if you saw my reply to one of your postings on the complaint forum. Anyway, here it is as I said I would do...an post up my image using your spiral curl hair prop. misc. credits: NYW texture-Happyworldland White eagle texture-Alex Aurichio Cheongsam-Jim Burton Wings-Thorne Reflection maps-JeffH BootTransMaps-??? (anyone remember? these didn't have any readme's or anything on the transmaps) Background done with Terragen no post render touch ups, although I may go back and smooth out the joints. Especially that shoulder I've found that by lowering the transparency setting will give a better effect, for me anyway. Tina