I have created a ball and chain .cr2 by following Stormrages tutorial on basic figure creation "the snowman one"(btw Thankyou Storm), anyway I have taken the "bend" out of each piece and am now trying to get the links to properly move without disconnecting from the main body, I have tried to alter it in the joint editer in Poser 4 and am having no luck. Is there anyone who can tell me what I may be doing wrong or be able to explain "in simple english" how I may fix this. PS: I also tried to change the origin of the chain links in 3D Max but couldn't. Thanks in advance.... Sprout