Some years ago, I think even before the current Renderosity configuration, as a newbie I was asking a naive newbie question, and the first response I got was preceded by heyas; and then some very kind and helpful guidance. I note that you are still at it. Still helping all us poor lost souls with your kind and knowledgeable advice. Just a thank you to you Bloodsong, one of the Poser Originals. Godspeed. Pinto