I read the recent thread from Holyforest concerning naming conventions of products sold here are Renderosity. Quite frankly, I am not surprised by the messages posted. Once again, division from within prevails. Can't we all just get along around here? So much has been going to hell in a handbasket that this site is losing it's appeal. I removed my stuff here for other reasons, which coincide with Holyforest's remarks. Yes, there ARE plenty of other sites in which to post images and sell stuff relative to Poser, but why do we have to resort to moving and leaving in a huff? Because there are so many cliques around here, if you don't "fit in", you are screwed. I feel sorry for Holyforest, in respect to his ORIGINAL complaint in that his name was being used by someone else. I feel it low of the other party to bring in personal issues, which then alienates the authority figures here to side with them. In retaliation, Holyforest then brings his personal issues and then BANG, everything explodes, the gloves come off. I guess we are witnessing what they truly are. Greed has reared it's ugly head. Instead of compromise, we get war. So dictates our society, and so dictates this community. Goodbye Holyforest, where ever you are.... Argus1971