_I request publicly to the Renderosity Administrators that they ban Legume from their site. Cause: Insult to foreign members of this Community in his placard where the words :"Christ among the savages of Ancient France". I don't care of the Christ thing... But Legume, this time, broke the TOS, I really believe he did, and I hope the Adms will ban him for this. AAnd I am rquesting his immediate ban ! his person has gone too far, I am sorry, but it's true. He knew very well that there are some french members here. He insulted them with this placard on purpose, and then he of course by the way insulted me too. You can't let french members being insulted and treated "savages" even to make a joke, like he would say it was. I criticized him, but honestly tried to get in touch and I relize today thatsuch hateful persons are here to provoke, and that's all, they are real hooligans for this site. Legume is not alone in this case. I was answering him with harsh humour, thoinking he was a good guy, but he is is a hateful person, and I think he has nothing to do here, I am not jealous of his victory becoming the "artist of the month" because being the artist ofthe monh is not my goal. I thought at a tome he was joking, the same time I was trying kidding too, thought he was a mad but nice guy, but he is really a hateful person. I tried to be nice, but this time, he is insulting people from a foreign country. I am sorry if it was not my country, I would act the same and would ask for his ban the same. _You know I am still french (newly American citizen), he knows it too, and now all of us know he did that on purpose and with hate. This is not tolerable. Renderosity will decide. I take personally the terms "savages of ancient France" as an direct xenophobist hateful direct common & individual attack against french people, and french members here on Renderosity. I am one of them. Thank you or your attention. Alf (liftan for Renderosity.)

Liftan, the thing I like about Legume is he does not discriminate. He is like Howard Stern. He hates and insults everyone equally, so why should the French people be immune? Learn to laugh and you will live longer.

I agree! I love rabbits and I hate to see pictures where they are forced to fly planes or ride armadillos. That's soooo cruel!!!!! (just kidding) :-).

Thanks liftan. After reading your post, I noticed that I didn't browse Legumes gallery this week. I just go now and look at some of his great work, before he gets banned from Renderosity. snicker

ROFL

Liftan, I have two requests: One, take it where it belongs. A diatribe in a public forum is not a request to the Admins- an e-mail or IM is. This is a request for public support, which is totally different. Two, leave it there. If I see further pursuit of this in this forum, I will have to lock the thread. I am sure that if the original post were by Legume, listing all the reasons why you should be banned, you would not want it to go on. That's enough. Take it to the admins- directly.

Er... Ancient France didn't have savages? I'm sure that'd be news to the Romans and Gauls... probably to the Vandals and Visigoths also. Those who refuse to remember history are doomed to keep stepping in it.

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• Monkeysmell

In fact, I request (officially, of course) that everyone be banned. In one swell foop. Just get it over with, and lets get on with the business of creating art. Well...first creating an entirely new membership...but then, creating art.

After a few months, let's ban those people and then start again. And then again. Fresh meat every few months.

Glad I could get that off my chest...Thanks for listening.

Now everyone: OUT!

How about that French judge in the Olympics? What a turd!

...... 'scuse me, 'scuse me, just passing through.....waving to the people here I know

How about them French people that gave us the incredible Statue of Liberty? They were so cool.

I posted my request officially today Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:47:21 -0500 to Renderosity Administration. Now the decision doesn't belong to any of Renderosity members, but it is exclusively in the hands of the Aministrators. _So I think it is useless for anyone of us to go on with this "Forum News" first message, as well as for replies on this specific message and case, until the official decision from Renderosity site is received by each of us. I will respect any decision they will make in any circumstances. I hope you would do the same. And I thank you in advance if you do. Personal comments will be welcome only on my private e-mail after this decision. Just because what will happen after about me or legume won't have to be discussed publically. greetings. Jean-Pierre Mayet (nickname:liftan, AKA Alf)

yup. ancient savages in france. they did those cave paintings at lascaux.

There were several times I thought Liftan was trying to contact me. Maybe to ask a question or my opinion, or something, but to be honest, I hadn't the damnedest idea what he was saying. He even posted an image in his gallery where he put my face on Jesus's head in the Last Supper. Now he wants me banned. Part of me wants to laugh at this, the other part just wants to scratch my head and say, "Huh?". Anyone who looks at that picture and sees it as a racist attack SERIOUSLY needs to consider treatment for their persecution complex. In the words of the French knights who guard the Holy Grail, "I fart in your general direction!"

Now go away or I shall taunt you some more!

Your mother was a hamster and your father reeks of elderberries!

How'd you know that?

I wave my private parts at your aunties!

"I hadn't the damnedest idea what he was saying" So it not just me, huh? "So I think it is useless for anyone of us to go on with this "Forum News" first message, as well as for replies on this specific message and case, until the official decision from Renderosity site is received by each of us." Translation: I've had my say and everyone else can just keep their mouths shut. You still just don't quite get the idea of a FORUM, do you? Let's see here, Liftan: In the last week or two, you've attacked Jack D Kammerer, Micheleh, Virus, Legume, and yours truly (and probably others I've missed). And you have the nerve to call Legume a "hateful person"? HA! And here I thought you had no sense of humor...

"Le gume" is obviously a French name, so this is all a big misunderstanding.

By the way Legume, do you think you could whip up something to offend the Brits next? I mean, they DID create the Teletubbies. They've got it coming!

Liftan, Amicain suis moi sans le fromage sur l'armadillo ainsi l'interdiction de moi il est absurde! Vous ne nouez non des poulets et des espadons du sommeil sur le train de la France mon panier de chat.

Liftan, is that a joke or something?

i don't know you, i don't know Legume either, but i'm french, and i don't see a damn insult anywhere....

So all i can imagine is that's a joke...

....or just provocation maybe.. ;o))

Cecile

hey Legume... I don't know if you used a automatic translator, but if you did, please, send us the url, as what you wrote means absolutly nothing lol

I think he invited him to chat about cheese and armadillos?

It was deeply moving. I weep. hohn! hohn!

"Liftan, is that a joke or something?" Of course ;-)... at least I hope so... Now, come on! Don't tell me that he was serious! ::scratch his head and feel confused::

VIVA LA.... ::blinks for a moment and scratches his head:: what the hell were we talking about again?? Jack

According to babelfish, it translates to.... American am me without cheese on the armadillo thus with the prohibition of me it is absurd! You do not tie not chickens and let us espadons sleep on the train of France to my basket of cat. Guess you can't have cheese and armadillo without some chicken and cat to go with it, LOL!

Sounds like a recipe. Cheesy armadillo with tied chicken and cat in a basket. Prohibeted on French railway transit.

What we were talking about, Jack? lemme see: Legume made a pic with some lunchboxes with teeth and called them "savages of Ancient France".. Now Liftan is offended because he think that savages of Ancient France don't look like lunchboxes with teeth... and now Legume invited him to a chat about cheese and armadillos?? That's at least what I understood till they lost me ... ~8-o

I speak that wacky Canadian French, myself ... And I really couldn make hide nor hare out of Legume's keen lingusitic insights. Runninin it backwards through the online translator we get a form of English rich in poetry all it's own: "Liftan, American am me without cheese on the armadillo thus with the prohibition of me it is absurd! You do not tie not chickens and let us espadons sleep on the train of France to my basket of cat." Sheer eloquence! :)~

"Personal comments will be welcome only on my private e-mail after this decision." Oh no, please continue to amuse us publicly. Americans are puzzled because the French think Jerry Lewis is great. Does anyone know why they think Jerry Lewis is great?

I wsan't even aware that the French like Jerry Lewis. What's their policy on Dean Martin?

I am sad to see that it's easyer to post completely unrelated 3d subjects, crap mail, rude language, insults and so on, here again with absolutely no content related to the 3d field, than to request a new forum and a new gallery for a 3d software in what is supposed to be a 3d dedicaced forum. yeah, let's talk about french assholes, Imperialist uhmraricun and the wisigoths instead... Richard

Boohoo ... people aren't talking about what I want to talk about.. Waaaaahhhhh

This is the Forum News and Team Contact forum. The Community Ideas forum is where requests, etc. go.

Hey Richard, I just finished 12 hrs. work with Excell, and I don't feel like touch an additional work now.(3D or what ever) So just allow me a little break and some relaxation with this nonsens-thread, would you? If you're looking for 3D related topics, we have one of the best Lightwave Forum here and I think the other topic Fora are not bad too. If you want to sugest a new forum, I think the "Community Ideas Forum" is the best bet for that stuff. And it wasn't my intention to offend or insult anyone. I'm just fooling around. And I love France and I'm a really fan of Bordeaux and their wine :-). Cheers Thomas

Cheese.... lavender.... creme brulee..... wine...... cuisine.... fashion...... castles...... joie de vivre...... That's it, I'm moving. ;]

Snicker ... comes back, checks on this thread again to make sure it wasn't a weird dream ... shakes head and tries to keep a straight face ... Snicker

Croissants! I forgot! (Thanks, Crescent!)

and literature, girls, art, cognac, movies, Asterix cartoons.... :-).

OOOOOOOOooooooooooohhhh that is what we were talking about... okay... FRENCH FRIES!!! Jack

Just so that there are no misunderstandings, I want to make sure that everyone knows that the Coneheads weren't really from France, they were from the planet Remulac. Lying bastards.

And lest we forget, I must remind you all of France's greatest contribution to the world: French kissing!

Which was probably invented by Ancient Savages.

I think it was ivented by Cassanova, actually. (Or was it Casanunda?)

Anyone who doesn't worship Jerry Lewis as a god

and then we'll see what happens

I've started to check this forum first, simply because I need a dose of humor to start the day. This thread has provided a couple of snorts and a giggle, for which I thank you all. I'm glad that my sight translation of Legume's message was close to accurate, since it has been 30 years since I've seriously read French... but words like "fromage" leap off the page. Unfortunately they fail to jump onto my plate. And then you guys started talking about croissants! And wine! How cruel!!! (Looking at 2 slices of naked hazelnut bread and coffee which is already cold) Humor may nourish and support the spirit, but I'm hungry for a nice fresh croissant slathered in real butter. :( Carolly

Now serving croissants and butter in the OT forum. Someone will jump out of the cake, as soon as I get a volunteer. 8]

And think of all the bloodshed that has been avoided because of them inventing 'the surrender' !

Vive le petard! ***** P.S. - Legume, I think that translator thingy would work better if you FIRST translated your statements from your mother tongue into english, and THEN used the translator. Last I looked, the Martian-to-French translator was still full of bugs. ;o)

Est-ce que je puis arrer les sous-vements de la brure? Quel est ce casque fide rempli de poo dans mon monger de poissons?

ewwww... I'd see a doctor about that.....

Eh? "...Who you are that you mess up my fish"?? Ok, ok, language isn't my cup of tea anyway ;-P.

"Est-ce que je puis arrer les sous-vements de la brure? Quel est ce casque fide rempli de poo dans mon monger de poissons?" "I then to stop the underclothing of the burn? Which is this stinking helmet filled with poo in my fish monger?" Any native French speakers that can properly translate this or is this secret spy code stuff?

he burned his underwear, sh*t in his helmet and that's where he keeps his fish. Not very sanitary, but to each his own.

ROFL I kinda like the translations you guys got rather than what it he really said, unless that is what he said.

"I posted my request officially today Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:47:21 -0500 to Renderosity Administration. Now the decision doesn't belong to any of Renderosity members, but it is exclusively in the hands of the Aministrators." Beg to differ. By posting this in open forum, you threw it to the membership. Making it a decision solely for the admins would have entailed sending a private email to the adminitrators and moderators. I will agree that it's a pointless discussion though. ;] "I will respect any decision they will make in any circumstances. I hope you would do the same. And I thank you in advance if you do. " I might. Might not. I don't see anything that truly obligates me to respect decisions made by anyone, especially on bannings. Legume? I think we need to talk. So far, you haven't done a SINGLE THING to offend or demean Czech/Irish/Cherokee half-breeds, and I for one am feeling slighted. You predujiced against us mixed breeds or something? We not worthy of being bashed and humiliated? I for one am not going to stand for this cavalier disregard of yours. I think I'll sit and snicker instead of standing, thank you. ;]

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• Monkeysmell

Why ban legumes? Isn't the legume a great source of protein? < ----- insert punchline here ----- >

My grandfather was Irish (a Sheridan) and my grandmother a full-blood Cherokee. Gramps used to joke to me that he traded whiskey and a rifle for her. At least I THINK he was joking.

Heh heh. My granddad use to joke that he traded a lame pony and a broken steel trap for my grandmom. And we were never certain he was joking. ;] Yeah, we're Speares and Barnes on the Irish side of the clan. The Barnes was Irish by way of Scotland a long, long time ago.

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• Monkeysmell

Ironic really. The pillock who came up with the phrase 'the only good injun is a dead injun' (and practised the notion) was Irish (a Sheridan). Nice to see many of the rest said 'bollocks to that, let's get together'.

I always prefered Custer's famous quote over Sheridan's myself: "Where'd all these damned indians come from any- URKKK! " snicker

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• Monkeysmell

If you think about it, it makes sense though. Both the Eirish, Scotts and the majority of Amerinds shared in common that by their own lights they were extremely civilized peoples, both were also extremely bloody peoples. And both shared a love for Whiskey You had damned good odds that anytime they came into contact they were going to become friends and relatives, or take each others hair. Or both. ;]

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• Monkeysmell

I think Gramps married an indian woman because Irish women are all ugly as a burlap sack full of dog crap. OK, gals, gimme a ten second head start and start shooting.

whispers to gals "Start shooting at 5... *

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• Monkeysmell

I think the gals don't have a chance to hit Legume. He is riding an armadillo. ;]

Good enough. Normal armadillo's jump six feet straight up in reflex when you shoot them. Giant ones can probably hit 20' easy. Just wait til he goes under an overpass and then shoot the armadillo with my .358 Norma Mag. ;]

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• Monkeysmell

They also tend to do that under cars. There they are, lucky that they're not getting run over by a wheel, but then they jump..... Mike who killed an armadillo on the road within his first week in Florida Strangely enough, it was also the first armadillo I ever saw "in person"

"armadillo's jump six feet straight up in reflex when you shoot them" What do you do with them?

Yeah, I had one commit suicide once on a rural highway. He came scooting out in front of my car, I swerved to miss him, and he jumped straight into the front bumper. I think he must've been having a bad life - "Goodbye cruel world! I'm outta here!" ;] When I was a kid, in the poor areas of some rural Texas towns they ate them. And made baskets of the shells to sell to touristas, Welcome. You could get $5 apeice for them - decent money for an 11 year old with a .22 rifle and time on his hands.

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• Monkeysmell

Ah yes, countryfolk, living in harmony with - bang - nature. ;-)

okay...I just wanna make sure I got the jist of this... Legume makes a joke about the French.... A frenchman says "hey! wait a minute! I'm French!" then....Legume neglects to respond with "Okay, I'll tell it again only slower"

As a Brit, I'm REALLY offended, we were MUCH more savage than the ancient French. Look what Boudica did to the Romans. Any Italians out there? LOL

"Welcome. You could get $5 apeice for them " Well, at least you didn't kill them just for kicks. I thought I was going to have to give you my speech about 'being disappointed over having a false impression of Native Americans having great respect for the animals they harvested for their needs'.

Just because ;]

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• Monkeysmell

What did Boudica do to the Romans? Oh yeah, she got killed and nearly all her followers were slaughtered; men, women and children. And Britannia was occupied for hundreds of years. It took the Germans to kick the shit out of the Romans and get away with it.

Heya Welcome... hate to disillusion anyone, but I'm reading more and more theory that a lot of the late pleistocene mammals may no longer be with us because they were hunted to extinction on the North American continent by guess who? My distant ancestors used to do mass drives of longhorned bison over cliffs because it was easiest... and I doubt that everything got used. And there's a couple of Texas tribes that were exterminated by their neighbors long before the whites crossed over. Apaches and Iroquians considered hideous torture an artform. I'm afraid that the myth of the noble savage is just that - a myth.

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• Monkeysmell

A myth created by guilty feeling middle class white folk. ;-)

"And there's a couple of Texas tribes that were exterminated by their neighbors long before the whites crossed over. Apaches and Iroquians considered hideous torture an artform." Nothin' wrong with that. It's the animals that I feel bad about.

A myth created by guilty feeling middle class white folk. ;-)* LOL!! The guilty feeling middle class white folk only feel that way because people want to keep reminding them of shit that they did ever since being born... ;o)

Ah... scalp 'em and they'll quit whining. ;]

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• Monkeysmell

Americans natives are back, alive and kicking ! I 'm one of them, Standing Bull ! And your Precise-dent still wants to be Buffalo-Bill ? Pull out the tooth, Men, pull out this rooten one of yours !To kill its nuclear breath that has poisonned USA for one year is a Citizen's act ! (If you don't want to understand what "futuro nunda a lUSA" about the breaking news. "VOUS REGARDEZ TROP LA TELEVISION"...How do you say that in English ? "VOUS REGARDEZ TROP LE WEB" is something t o with modeation too, because of the subliminal bannners ! ...Pas con,Buffalo-Bill,le mec..normal....Ecole Normale Sup. too ! LOL "En Corse, si je vous prome, je vous pers." My grand-father's Promise. (Translation: "In Corcica, you see, if I take you for a walk, then I lose you_MEANS: YOU'RE LOST"). Sh.... !!! It 's too hard, it's culturally so different. LOL Alf.

???? Please excuse the man in the white jacket and locked in the rubber room. He has no clue of what he is talking about... not that anyone would be able to understand him... Jack

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• Monkeysmell

Hey! Not if you're a Zombie! Mmmmm. Brainsssss. Sincerly, Undead Ed Zombie Anti-Defamation League

If you're hungry for brains, er... what are you doing hanging around here? ;]

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• Monkeysmell

I always liked the classic Universal Pictures' "Dracula" because Bela had armadillos roaming the castle. I kid you not...the proof's on the celluloid. As for the original topic, I would merely note that the French, while gaining a worldwide rep for rudeness, are also the first to complain about anything negative about them or their culture. They bemoan EuroDisney while passing laws requiring all internet content to be published in French (no cultural imperialism in that idea). Finally, I can only imagine what word got translated into "basket of cat."

Ironbear, I am on a diet, after all. Just because I'm a zombie doesn't mean I don't try to watch my figure. Regards, Undead Ed Spokesghoul Zombie Anti-Defamation League

The way movies portray zombies. The way they just jump on you en masse and rip open your guts, grabbing steaming handfuls of your viscera and showing it into their mouths... I think it's DREADFUL that movie makers would portray zombies in a way that presumes they have such atrocious table manners.

THANK YOU. See, this is what I'm talking about. The perpetuation of ridiculous sterotypes. And don't even get me started on some of the portrayals of my people, right here on these galleries. It's like I tell people: Eating brains is just something I do; IT'S NOT WHO I AM. Thank you for sensitivity and understanding, Dr. Legume. You strike me as a pretty nice guy, for a "quick". Regards, Undead Ed Spokesghoul Zombie Anti-Defamation League

If people would just take a few minutes to make themselves less appetizing, zombie/human relations would improve greatly.

Yeah, some people are just asking for it, really.

Women especially ask for it. They put on their makeup and those wonderbras, wearing those short skirts and those high heels that accentuate their legs. They dab a little barbecue sauce behind their ears and then complain when some zombie drags them down an alley and eats them.

You are preaching to the choir, my friend. Can you believe they made me sign a "Non-Consumption Agreement" at work? Totally unfair. The other employees didn't have to sign anything regarding their dietary habits. Total discrimination, I'm telling you. And then the suits act like they're doing you this HUGE favor in letting you dispose of certain vendors and salesmen they don't want to do business with anymore. Oh, yeah, big fat hairy deal. Most of those guys brains are just empty calories anyway.

Why do you eat brains? Why not something else, like the spleen?

Why do you eat brains? Why not something else, like the spleen?

Hey, I know all about discrimination. As a Yeti, I've had to put up with it all my life. People calling me Skunk Ape and Bigfoot, employers saying "we'll call you if we ever need a RUG". People think there's equality now just because there are no more "humans only" signs on public toilets, but really all that means is that they don't want us shitting in their car windows anymore. They're just polite as can be when they come walking through our part of town. Walk fast, say nothing, keep your head down. Damn right, they'd BETTER, or we'll bust a size 24 Reebok off in their asses. Go ahead PINK BOY, c'mon down to MY neighborhood and call me a bigfoot, I DARE you.

WyldeSnake, just to clarify: We waste nothing. Spleens is good eatin', after all. Especially with pesto and grave dirt. The eating of brains is a deeply spiritual thing in our culture (not that you every see Hollywood portray it that way, bah), but sort of hard to explain to a quick (don't be offended, some of my best friends are quick).

Quick, as in what, not undead? Dont worry, it should be easy to explain to me, after all, I'm a friggin cornsnake here. I hear you guys on the whole discrimination issue...You ever seen a snake try to pick up chicks? It just doesnt fly...They just point at you and scream, and then run away really fast. And I'm just a nice guy! Sure, I got a hard, tough exterior, but everyonce in a while I shed, and there's a soft side to me then. Cant say I can make the same threats as Legume up there...Maybe I could fling a size 24 Reebok at someone with my tail. Anyways, I'll just hang out in the tall grass, where nobody can see me lurk.

Well, WyldeSnake, my people believe that you don't really understand someone until you've eaten their brain. Man, now I'm all hungry and stuff, and the dang vending machine is out of everything except kidneys and Milk Duds.

BTW, WyldeSnake, what's the employment situation for cornsnakes? Just curious.

Pretty grim, my friend, pretty grim...Havent had a job in a while here. Same problem as with meeting girls...people tend to see me and just run away screaming without getting to know me.

Same here, WyldeSnake. Though some folks DO try to take pictures of us farting on campfires and such.

They should pay you for putting you in a photo shoot you weren't asked to be in...Pay you handsomely (or at least, pay a lot) for it.

I need another cup of coffee. One isn't going to get me through this business of zombies farting in car windows before shedding their skins so that they can run in high heels....

i think i just woke up in the middle of a Laurel Hamilton novel... cool!