I haven't visited this forum in a long time and although I am a owner of Poser 4, I haven't updated to any models like Mike and Vic or Steph. The first question I had was does anyone have any incling when Poser 5 will be released and what its features will be? Furthermore, with all the extra models out there - do Poser users feel victimized (wallet wise) by DAZ3d to get any further use from Poser outside of the basics. In this regard, it costs nearly 40 - 50 bucks jsut to get a new model, then another 20-30 to clothe it, give it hair etc. How much will it all finally cost? Well over the price of just the program itself. Isn't it about time that Poser 5 is released with a new set of models and a full line of clothing/hair?