Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Any Tolkien fans who can help me out?

Albertosaurus opened this issue on Jan 18, 2000 ยท 10 posts


Albertosaurus posted Tue, 18 January 2000 at 5:23 AM

This is my interpretation of the Swan-ship on which Feanor sailed onto Middle-earth. Any comments/usefull ideas? I'm not sure I've got it right, as I've not been able to find any usefull source material as to what it's supposed to look like. It's still a work in progress, as I've yet to model the benches for the oar-elves and the rudder. I'll do so as soon as I fugure out what they looked like. BTW, the emblem on the sail is my "logo." I just couldn't fugure out what else to stick on it.

pdblake posted Tue, 18 January 2000 at 5:27 AM

Have you tried the silmarillion. Feanor's emblem should be on the jacket.


Morbid posted Tue, 18 January 2000 at 11:06 AM

As PDBLAKE stated, Feanor's emblem is on the back cover of The Silmarillion. You should be able to find versions on some of the Tolkien web sites. However, the ships he used were stolen from the Elves of Alqualonde whose emblem was the swan. Any maritme emblem would be appropriate though. The dragon is not. Dragons were created later by Melkor & would not be used as an emblem by any Elves. :) Keep at it... its getting there.


Ghostofmacbeth posted Tue, 18 January 2000 at 1:27 PM

I have been collecting the calendars for about 19 years and there are a few representations of the swan ships in them ... 19 years? Shudders Anyway there are some good renditions of them there and Tolkien himself did an illustration I believe in a book I have. I will try to help if I can find them and if you want. I believe the emblem was on the boxed set from around 1980 but that is also in the book I have. Let me know if I can help ... osterberger@hotmail.com



Talos posted Tue, 18 January 2000 at 1:41 PM

Morbid's tip on dragons was useful (for me too). I would add that although I LIKE the 3/4 view T-Rex portrait, it doesn't look sufficiently dragonish or fit the medieval style of Tolkien stories. If anything, it might be a stylized full body silhouette in side view. There is a swan for download at the Props Guild or someplace if you wanted to combine the front of the ship with an actual swan. I think the Hildebrants did an interpretaion of the swan ship on one of their calendars, might have appeared on the audio version of the trilogy.


Albertosaurus posted Tue, 18 January 2000 at 2:44 PM

I'm hurt to the very depth of my soul... That was meant to be an Albertosaurus. I thought everyone would pick up on the obvious resemblance to me...


Talos posted Tue, 18 January 2000 at 4:19 PM

Aw Gee-:-) I didn't make the connection with your name because of information overload from checking both galleries and forums. The Albertosaurus and the Tyrannosaurus look about the same to anyone but a paleontologist, both living in the redwood forests along the shores of the great inland sea. It didn't really look like a dragon to me, and Morbid probably assumed it was a dragon since they are mentioned in Lord of the Rings, whereas the Albertosaurus is not. If you are married to the concept of an Albertosaurus sail, who shall complain? Me, the dinosaur nut?


Ghostofmacbeth posted Tue, 18 January 2000 at 6:46 PM

I got the link to your name Albertosaurus ... S



ingrid posted Wed, 19 January 2000 at 2:55 AM

I like the idea a lot and was just thinking that Poser could use a whole series of tolkien chartachters so maybe somone could animate all or some of the story. I do however have one more itsy bitsy comment- the oars don't seem terribly elvish to me. Elves are magical after all, I think I'd show only the sail.


Ghostofmacbeth posted Wed, 19 January 2000 at 8:07 AM

Just so everyone knows there is a full three-part movie being filmed ... They have an excellant cast and it looks very promising ...