I'm new to the forums but so far you all seem to be very helpfull. I am currently using Bryce 5 for illustrations. I will soon need to do scenes with coral outcroppings. I've spent very little time on this yet, as I'm working on the current book, but so far it would appear that the only way to accomplish this in Bryce is to remove all the leaves from a tree and then manipulate the angle, size and number of branches. Has anyone used this method? If so, can you recommend some geometric values? Thanks.