OKay... having been properly enticed by your guys, I decided to go out and buy Vue... I must say I've very impressed. This is my first rendering in Vue and I realy like it. I'm a TrueSpace man myself and have discovered something... Using TrueSpace 4 if I save an object as a 3DStudio file it imports in Vue but the textures are messed up. But if I go and try to import the same object from a TrueSpace COB file the program locks up and won't go anywhere from that point on... Have to shut it down and I lose all my presets. Is there any suggestions on this? -=> Satyr! <=-