OOohh !!! I don't know if you all remember my orange orchard with the trees that would not sink... and I THOUGHT I "over-wrote" the original orchard that I had worked on soooo hard... but I looked in my scene files an noticed this ".bak " file... so in Vue (4) I went to open-file and made it say 'all files' so it would SEE the .bak files.. and chose my missing orchard... and walla!! It's there!!!! I am re-rendering it now as it was meant to be, now that I CAN sink the trees down to the proper trunk height... I have HUNDREDS of oranges I added to the trees, and the ground... I am so happy! It looks like this one will not need much post at all... so when it is done I will bring the link to share! I just wanted others who might not know to know that sometimes Vue will back up a scene file for you when you make changes! :)) learning all the time! Lyne

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!