This is the next progress report: After getting away from me once again, to the point I had to work on other things for awhile, I think I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. The final clue was when I found a picture with a girl wearing a hairdo with half the sideburn flipped over the top, _that_ is what I wanted to do with those curls! I also pulled the sides in tighter and compleatly redid the flip-over part in the front, it is now starting to look the way I wanted all along. Still to come is some more work on the ends, and fixing all the collisions where one curl runs through another. I'd like to add some more curls to get a fuller look at the bottom, especially at the front, but I want to keep the poly count under Vickie's (26,000), right now it is about 22,500. It will also look better when it gets it's own tran map, right now it is using half of the one for SMV's hair.