Okay, need to get serious here for just a minute. I am confused as to which program best handles imports and renders of texture rich poser 4 models. Could we get a bust render of one model with a detailed texture, such as a freckle texture, with Bushi's or Nerd's eyes and Allie's Hair rendered in the following programs? Bryce Carrera 3dsmax Vue3 Lightwave Misc. I think if we can pull together and do this, this will be a valuable end-result thread that will guide many newcomers to the best possible companion program to Poser. I ask because I see a lot of renders of poser models in other programs, and I'll be damned if they ever look as good as they do in poser. Usually skin tones are icky and everything looks washed out. So, here's the guidelines. Standard P4 nude woman with Dthuregrif's freckle texture and Allie's hair rendered stock blonde. I think not enough people have the real eyes to include that...so skip that... Bust render of said model in program that you have..sign up here for which one you're going to do to avoid many duplicates...and send the best quality jpg to me at Gboycott@mediaone.net. I will compile them all into one final showcase pic and post the results to the um...3D Applications forum and generations from now, people will finally know which program does it best. Or if it's a crappy idea, flame me :) -Darth_Logice