Hello again, Yup it's the idiot with waterfall fetish with more water related questions. Anyone have ideas on detailed sea foam? You know the type made up of bubbles and circles left by popped bubbles. The image I want to modify can be found at link below http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=thunderdon The image is called Sticks and Stones and I want to add foam around collision areas (there is @@@*#&$$ looking mist there now) with rocks and, well sticks and stones! I can't believe water gives me so much trouble but the time I've spent trying to do this correctly is embarrassing. Believe me I wouldn't ask if I hadn't spent too much time already on it. Any help will be appreciated. (I think I'll start a desert series next!) thunderdon