Well, we've tried everything to get Kupa to divulge his secrets, I've whined, pleaded, cussed.. all to no avail. So, perhaps it's time to be more philosophical. Being a pragmatic sort of chap I got to thinking what was the best upgrade I ever got for Poser. I came to the conclusion that it didn't come from Curious or from Metacreations at all but from a computer manufacturer. Upgrading from a laptop to a much faster machine released all the functions that were already there. Having a 19 inch screen for example enabled me to see everything I wanted at once. Suddenly, I was able to utilise the grouping tool and to animate a figure in real time using the full tracking mode. There are still functions though that are beyond my present machine, I need to be able to animate in real time with multiple figures, Poser 4's perfectly able to do that but my machine isn't. I need to be able to get on with shockwave 3d stuff and again PPP is able to do that but my OS isn't. The same's true of high res texture maps, radiosity lighting and even the various exporters are held up by processor speed. Bryce grinds, Lightwave hangs and so on. So, as far as I'm concerned my next upgrade's already here, I've just got to go out and buy it......