Hi all I've just discovered my machine is still infected with the w32 virus, it seems that XP has a wonderful new system built in called system restore, yes that's old news to most, but I've just found out that the w32 virus will infect restore points and the virus removal software can't get to it, I've turned system restore off but I'm now going to have to do something really drastic to get rid of that virus once and for all. be careful out there people Rob