I want to create a realistic bat cave with 1000's of bats and several rooms a person or animal can walk through what's a good starting point kind of stumped as to 3d studio and make rooms that look like rocks or bryce and try and cut out a hole in a mountain. or maybe lightwave ro maya got all these programs the've gotten me dissy figuring were to start. Oh if there are any example images or tutorials on similar construction please let me know

If you talk to the Animals, they will talk with you. And you will know each other. If you do not talk to them, you will not know them. And what you do not know you will fear, What one fears One destroys." Chief Dan George-Tsleil-Waututh Nation Next time your scared by a bat remember 8 million have died from White Nose Syndrome 1 bat=5 lbs bugs/year=1-2 million mosquitoes/year 1 small bat house = 250-700 bats you do the math. West Nile Virus infected 5287 people killed 243 last year is your home protected? http://fewerr.org/Pictures/WNV_Bat_Mosquito_yellow%202.pdf

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Might be easier to do in bryce. Just create terrains and rotate them until you get the cave shape you want.

I'm working on caves now, and I've gotten pretty good results by using inverted symetrical lattices. Create, smooth, invert and then raise the lowest level to crop out the bottom. When turned on it's side in Bryce, this gives very nice cave walls. Just kee adding lattices as far back as you can see. Stalactyes and stalagmites are best made with terrains. Remember that stalactyes are long and thin but there should be a corresponding stalagmite below it.

When you want your cave-walls to be detailed your should use Bryce, no only do the latices render faster than highly complex imported models I think modelling the cave is faster in bryce too. As for the bats, maybe you should make them in 3DS-max. But if the final render is going to be done in 3DS-max, you should just make everything else in 3DS-max too.

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Aye, I made this image about six months ago, it's all Bryce, nothing else. I've since evolved the whole scene, but I think the principles apply to your question. I'll post the evolved one if anyone's intersted...

yea that pic looks great i'd like to see the other one too thanks

If you talk to the Animals, they will talk with you. And you will know each other. If you do not talk to them, you will not know them. And what you do not know you will fear, What one fears One destroys." Chief Dan George-Tsleil-Waututh Nation Next time your scared by a bat remember 8 million have died from White Nose Syndrome 1 bat=5 lbs bugs/year=1-2 million mosquitoes/year 1 small bat house = 250-700 bats you do the math. West Nile Virus infected 5287 people killed 243 last year is your home protected? http://fewerr.org/Pictures/WNV_Bat_Mosquito_yellow%202.pdf

http://www.fewerr.org/PDF/bookfly1.pdf

Cool pic. I'd love to see the evolved version

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