Okay got a few questions. In the Standard rendering (4:3) I am getting 2800 pixels by 2100 pixels. Is their anyway of setting my page to 2800x2200 using the user define before I start laying out my picture? Right now my picture is being stretched to fit the larger size. I don't want this to happen. So should I render just the atmoshere before laying my picture out? Will this prevent it from stretching it? Okay something else I need help on. I have to same my renderings in CMYK, LZW compressed TIF format. No RGB formatted images, us there anyway I can do this in VUE4? Thanks for any help. White Bear