Well the 5 O'Clock shadow just wasn't working for me. So I took the "newford_texture" Thanks to whom ever posted that, and did some revisions. and I'm closer but he's still not rugged enough, and a bit to young. But it's getting there. I downloaded some morphs that i hope will help. I also got the Clothing pack from Zygote. So now I have Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas. All which need a lot of revision but soon I hope to have most of the cast done. Including Frodo, Gladrial, Golum and maybe Samwise. More on it's way. James PS: I hope I'm not boring anyone with these.