Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL

Subject: Sheriff Duke WIP..

-renapd- opened this issue on Jun 08, 2002 ยท 18 posts

-renapd- posted Sat, 08 June 2002 at 1:07 PM Site Admin

This project is fully dedicated to Questor as totally inspired by him! :o) We'll have a Sheriff's office next time, we'll have the guns etc and a new Sheriff's outfit.. well, I thought we ought to have a Sheriff too! Right? :o) So I've started Sheriff Duke on Mike and everything is still too rough a preliminary WIP.. But just felt like sharing as I need your help! :o) Anyone who can save me the time to search for a good reasonable size FRONT view picture of the Duke to use as front reference.. I'd sure appreciate it a bundle, as it will come pretty handy in the progress of this wip! :o) BTW..it's just what I fooled around this evening.. to take the tension and anxiety off the last update overwork! VL grin Rena



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artnik posted Sat, 08 June 2002 at 1:16 PM

Rena, go to Google's image search section. I'll bet you'll find a lot of reference pics there,Google does excellent and usually quick searches. That way, you can get exactly what you need, probably tons of someone that well known. If you don't know about it, it's http://images.google.com

bigdog1 posted Sat, 08 June 2002 at 1:30 PM

As he is now he looks a little like Robert Mitchum.

-renapd- posted Sat, 08 June 2002 at 2:23 PM Site Admin

Thanks artnik! I WILL! :o) It just has to be a straight front image.. with as less shadows as possible to use for a good reference! :o) bigdog1.. as long as the final version looks like someone dead already ..I guess we're safe! LOL Rena



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pokeydots posted Sat, 08 June 2002 at 2:30 PM

Cool I love John Wayne, heck I just love Cowboys :) Can't wait for this one! Thanks

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queri posted Sat, 08 June 2002 at 6:41 PM

Whatever you do, save this as an alternate-- I prefer it to the original. Looks like the sheriff in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid-- don't know his name, character actor. And it's almost the spitting image of Harry Dean Stanton from Repo Man and Alien, and Escape from New York. Please, keep it!!! Emily

-renapd- posted Sun, 09 June 2002 at 2:25 AM Site Admin

No problem Emily... he'll be kept! ;o) After all.. that far west town will have to be inhabited by more people than just one sheriff..right? :o) Rena



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Jackson posted Sun, 09 June 2002 at 8:51 AM

When the pic appeared the first thing I thought was "Robert Mitchum."

-renapd- posted Sun, 09 June 2002 at 12:30 PM Site Admin

Well I'm afraid the following is the best I can do about the real Duke.. we desperately need more mouth, teeth and end lip shapes morphs for Mike I guess! :o( Rena



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Ironbear posted Sun, 09 June 2002 at 12:52 PM

That's ok Rena. Mitchum and Wayne were in the same movie together [El Dorado] at least. ;] Not bad actually. On your first, the profile looks about right, it's the front face that starts to look like Mitchum. You got the profile of the nose, arch of the eyebrows and chin/jawline about right in profile. Very cool. Lower looks like the younger Wayne, closer than I've ever gotten. You managed to capture those expressive eyebrowse just about right. ;] I've been playing with the same thing... maybe if I can dig up my experiments on whatever CD I acrived them too, and we compare notes, we can pool efforts and figure out what we need to capture him? You're right... we need more mouthline, lip, and nose shaping morphs for this at the very least. ;[

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-renapd- posted Sun, 09 June 2002 at 2:13 PM Site Admin

To be honest.. I just love playing with faces and not celebrities.. :o) Like the following family of weathered rough faces, that I think would serve OK to play a part in the same environment! :o) Rena



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Ironbear posted Sun, 09 June 2002 at 11:39 PM

Coolness. ;] Good work. Lessee.... left to right: sidekick or town goodguy, deputy sherrif, and town badguy's hired thug. ;] They'll fit all righty.

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artnik posted Mon, 10 June 2002 at 2:03 AM

Actually, if you just made the Duke a bit more wrinkled and weathered looking. Some stubble, more crows feet around the eyes, more grizzled, less smooth skin, etc., he wouldn't be that far off the mark,I think. Maybe you could do that with a text map and a good bump map. Just a few thoughts.

Jackson posted Mon, 10 June 2002 at 10:42 AM

Except for the nose, I think the second pic of the Duke looks like him in his younger acting days.

-renapd- posted Mon, 10 June 2002 at 2:48 PM Site Admin

Somehow I think he looks better now.. I widened the chin and nose slope, made the nose a bit flatter and added a few extra eyelines.. well, any better? :o) Rena



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Ghostofmacbeth posted Mon, 10 June 2002 at 2:59 PM

Looks better :) I always think of him as haveing a little rounder tip to his nose. He also had a little bit of a crook in it that you may have gotten in this version but I am not sure. Think his jaw is a little less pointy as well but he has a little touch of a double chin :) Hoppe that helps and it is looking good.


Ironbear posted Mon, 10 June 2002 at 3:07 PM

I think so too. Looks good. There may not be much more you can do on the chin and mouthlines... Mike just doesn't seem to have the right morphs. Eyes and eyebrows are good, and the shape of the nose is close. Wayne's nose is the hardest thing to get close, from my playing with it. Broad and flattened from the front, strong and hawklike from the side profile. Looks like you did good job on it. A bump map and texture can do the rest of the eye wrinkles and cheeklines. Let me see if I can dig up a url or email for Wayne's official site. Might send a finished render in when done with it... his family might enjoy seeing the tribute. ;]

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artnik posted Tue, 11 June 2002 at 1:22 AM

Yes, I think probably a bump map and text might help. The skin still looks too smooth and kind of plasticky(is that a word?).