I've been asking a lot of "basic questions" lately, and a certain person loves to tell me to "read the manual." I happened to remember a recent question about how to import a 3DS file into Poser. So I dug out the manual. Guess what? I was again reminded just how shallow, and unhelpful the Poser manual really is. There was one page of the subject, and it provided absolutely no clue or insight into what choices to make, etc. In fact, there was no mention of 3DS format, only a brief mention of DXF. The next task for the Poser manual was to find out how to rotate the Document Display Style and Editing tools. Guess what? Most of the workspace documentation talked about the document window. The Poser manual and tutorial have a habit of brushing up to the "meat" of a subject, (the point where you get some good solid information or insights), then either dropping you there, or just wandering away into something entirely different. I encountered this problem a year ago, and discounted the Poser Manual as a source of enlightenment because of that problem. My detractor(s) almost had me convinced I'd somehow missed something, and that I should go back for another look. The problem still remains. The Poser manual might be good for something but it has mostly left me with many unanswered questions. I suggest that someone should take a good honest look at a section of the manual before they criticize someone for asking a question. You're liable to be reminded that the answers really aren't there after all. Ron