A while back I went and downloaded the Meta Creations Beta Poser patch... And up until a couple of nights ago I saw no problems with it... I was converting a .phi file for a posable wasp I am working and converting went fine... But when I would load the cr2 no matter what I did the head and abdomen would disappear... I even tried editing the .phi, removing the .rsr and trying again... Finally I had someone else try (who does not have the patch installed) and it worked fine so I uninstalled Poser and reinstalled it without the patch and it finally worked for me... So I just though I'd tell everyone that the patch might cause problems when creating new posable figures... AofD