From what I understand the Lightwave MetaNURBS system is very similar to subdivide smoothing, so I decided to do a test. I created a Plastic Duck... Not pretty, but look at the stats--- 42 Polygons 50 vertices And this puppy renders in a flash. Creating the cage then moving vertices took about 5 minutes. Any thoughts on the matter? ken 

interesting

yeah is great, add some bones to that and you have a nice little cartoonish ducky to animate... Brian Hinton Formula Designs http://free.hostdepartment.com/fdesigns/