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Subject: Awesome New Environment Prop

Disciple3d opened this issue on Jul 11, 2002 ยท 32 posts


Disciple3d posted Thu, 11 July 2002 at 10:55 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=213512&Start=1&Sectionid=29&WhatsNew=Yes

3DModelz has been kind enough to provide me with a preview of a new environment prop they're putting out called, "3DWorldz". I've played with it a few hours and can already tell you that it's going to make an impact.

Finally, someone has improved on Nerd's original idea with the backdrop instead of just blatantly ripping him off.

Essentially, it's a large sphere big enough to build your entire scene, with props and all inside of. But, it has layered planes and transmaps which really sell the illusion of distance.

I am totally impressed with this. Can ya tell?

Where can you buy it? You can't yet. :) Sike!. But it will be available on Poser City July 29th, and then on Rosity in August for around $10 - $12 bucks. Amazing!

These guys are ones to watch now that they've started creating Poser products.

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pokeydots posted Thu, 11 July 2002 at 11:05 AM

Nice Image Greybro! And it does look Like a nice product :)

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SAMS3D posted Thu, 11 July 2002 at 5:54 PM

Very very cool....Sharen


Huolong posted Thu, 11 July 2002 at 10:34 PM

Isn't the scene shown using the Downtown prop-figure available through the store? Were the props used to produce images for this "sphere"?

Gordon


Little_Dragon posted Thu, 11 July 2002 at 11:11 PM

No, Huolong, the environment prop is the background seen behind the buildings (the mountains and sky). At least, I assume that's the case. I'm glad to see that Poser is finally catching up with the gaming community. Skyboxes are a good way to enhance a scene. Are the clouds applied to a separate layer from the sky? That would be fantastic for animation.



Disciple3d posted Fri, 12 July 2002 at 6:04 AM

You are correct on both counts Little Dargon. Whaashaaa! The sky boxes and the cloud layer are manipulated seperately via morph dials.

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VIDandCGI posted Fri, 12 July 2002 at 4:11 PM

Trying not to be thick here, but from what I saw of the picture and from what I have read, but isnt this just basically an old LWMAX etc trick pulled into poser, eg. a series of layered sphere like objects that continually rotate to give the effect of a moving sky? - If so, I think its a bit much to ask someone to pay for a set of spheres. Then again, I never saw the attraction in having a curved plain for x amount of dollars (eg the cyclorama et al)


Lisas_Botanicals posted Fri, 12 July 2002 at 4:27 PM

Isn't this the same thing as the Transpond sets? They have an enviornment/sky dome.


andix posted Fri, 12 July 2002 at 6:38 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=208601

No VIDandCGI, LisaB, it's not. And personally, I think your Summer Garden set would look absolutely wonderful in it, with a peaceful azure sky, lightly feathered with clouds, and a romantic moon gazing upon the part-goers. There is rather more to it than just "a series of sphere like objects" and as accomplished modellers yourselves, I would suspect that you are fully aware of this. And with your readily apparent experience with textures, you will also be aware of the inherant difficulties involved with not only making everything look right, but also operate correctly too. I fully understand that with the modellings skills you have, you have no need of such items, but i would presume to suggest that not everyone has the same level of proficiency. For example, I know people who make the most amazing renders, but can't create the raw models to save their lives. That is no disrespect to them-everyone has differant things they are good at. WorldZ just makes life easier for the Poser user.

Jackson posted Fri, 12 July 2002 at 9:22 PM

I'm lost. So this new prop provides a sky/cloud/planet-type backdrop only?


Disciple3d posted Fri, 12 July 2002 at 9:56 PM

Attached Link: http://www.posercity.com

It's an environment, ground plane, geosphere, poseable sky and cloud layers. Here's another render. You can see Daz 3D's Architure building and VIDandCGI and LisaB's Summer Garden prop in the scene to give you an idea of the props scale. It's basically an adjuistable world to put your scene inside of.

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Disciple3d posted Fri, 12 July 2002 at 9:58 PM

Attached Link: http://www.posercity.com

And another.

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andix posted Sat, 13 July 2002 at 5:20 AM

on the subject of renders, this was sent to me by Chemical-Brother, who is being kind enough to help test Worldz. He had only had Worldz for a few hours when he produced this.....

Disciple3d posted Sat, 13 July 2002 at 6:57 AM

Hey, thjat looks cool1

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chemicalbrother posted Sat, 13 July 2002 at 9:30 AM

a few hours Andix.but i only played with it for 5 minutes : ) then rendered this believe me folks this is one awesome prop Imagine the little bryce sun control (the ball with the light on) this sits in the middle of your poser scene you rotte the ball it rotates the moon and lighting to suit.......................................


chemicalbrother posted Sat, 13 July 2002 at 10:36 AM

just another quickie : ) 15 minutes to setup and render (dragon saddle and helmet props are my own)

chemicalbrother posted Sat, 13 July 2002 at 10:42 AM

btw did I say I LOVE this : )


Omnedon posted Sat, 13 July 2002 at 9:11 PM

What does this do as far as render time?


andix posted Sun, 14 July 2002 at 2:53 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=214619

Omnedon-on a p2 celeron 400, it will render a 800x600 scene, at 144 dpi, with two characters in around 3 minutes...and that was with a 16meg graphic card. the image that the link leads to, was rendered at 96 dpi on an Athlon 1.7g with a 64meg gForce 4, and took all of 15 seconds. If you choose to render at 72 dpi with anti-alias turned off, a render in the main window can be turned around in a couple of minutes at most, even on low spec machines.

chemicalbrother posted Sun, 14 July 2002 at 8:16 AM

yeah i rendered the BIG picture of the demon chick (originally was 800x 1199) on a 1.8 ghz athalon in just under a minute.......... the dragon pic took a lot less cuz i rendered that small


Jackson posted Sun, 14 July 2002 at 8:47 AM

Andix: in the pic "When All Is Done" you mention 'prepackaged sets.' What's that mean? You buy the prop and then can buy sets for it? Speaking of which, can the user map is own pics to the prop and are there instructions for that? Or does the user have to use what comes with it?


andix posted Sun, 14 July 2002 at 9:34 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=215048

Jackson- the pack comes with two complete, fully textured enviroments, WorldZ and WorldZ of Ice, which each have 6 pre-set "poses". The textures are interchangeable, and like any other Poser object, they can indeed be retextured.

Jackson posted Sun, 14 July 2002 at 7:31 PM

Thanks for the info, guess I will be buying. At 10 bucks it sounds--and looks--too good to pass up.


leather-guy posted Sun, 14 July 2002 at 7:40 PM

Looks fascinating - Does it come with any lush, green, living-look ground textures? - Is there a screen-cap of the props in wireframe froma a distance? I'd really like to be able to better envision it's potential. - The misty mountains in post 12 look incredible; are they a 2D projection or actually modeled? - Are there other worldZ theme paks planned yet? - Perhaps underseas, farmlands, or alien worlds?


Disciple3d posted Wed, 17 July 2002 at 9:14 AM

Attached Link: http://www.posercity.com

Another sample doing double duty by showing the nude version of Lt. Nielsen for scifiguy. I couldn't bring myself to do one of those anatomical shots. The pants on the chic are by Philc for a new suit/weapons project we're working on currently, textured my muaaa!

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tanisorb1 posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 1:49 PM

Another image rendered in WorldZ ... This one took about 3 minutes to render at Poser's highest settings using a P3 with a 16meg graphics card ... The character is a basic Vicky with extra morph targets added to head and body ... Weapon props and horns are from 3dmodelz

tanisorb1 posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 1:55 PM

And, just for the fun of it ... Yet another WorldZ render ... Took about the same time as the above image. Post-Editing was aplied to both to the Ice-Demon image in my last post to apply the snow-effect ... The Scene prop should be available at 3dmodelz on their August update ... By the way, forgot to mention my name on the last post ... Sorry; most rude of me ... Tanisorb

Disciple3d posted Sun, 28 July 2002 at 12:31 PM

Attached Link: http://www.posercity.com/store.html

Tonite is the big nite. And, as an added bonus, folks who purchasers worldz at www.posercity.com, thru the 31st, will receive a significant mystery bonus item from the Poser City store, absolutely free. Trust me, for $10, you don't want to miss this.

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Disciple3d posted Sun, 28 July 2002 at 1:30 PM

Attached Link: http://www.posercity.com/worldz.htm

In typical yank fashion, I wasn't able to resist jumping the gun on this release, which I think will really shake things up a bit for backdrop users. Worldz is available at PoserCity.com right now! As an added bonus for buying before this item becomes available throughout the community, purchasers through Poser City get a significant mystery bonus item from the Poser City store through the 1st. I'd love to tell ya what it is, but, it wouldn't be a mystery bonus item then would it? I can tell you it retails for quite a bit more than the Worldz product. For $10, can you afford not buy this awesome environment tool?

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tanisorb1 posted Wed, 31 July 2002 at 1:16 PM

Spent a day in the WorldZ, and came up with these ... A little post-editing was applied ... But only things like lense-flares ... Each image took about five minutes to set-up, and about two minutes to render at Poser's Highest settings ... Thanks go to Greybro and company for Chaves ...

tanisorb1 posted Wed, 31 July 2002 at 1:21 PM

Second image in a series that will eventually total Seven ... Each rendered in Poser using WorldZ ...

tanisorb1 posted Wed, 31 July 2002 at 1:26 PM

Third in the set ... This time featuring a beta version of a new Horizon-Map, which will form part of 3dmodelz first expansion pack for the "WorldZ" environment ... All seven images from this set will be on display at 3dmodelz sometime in the near future: each featuring examples from the expansion pack ...