Getting in here is often difficult, however, at 10pm PDT I shouldn't be crowded out. This was the message: SessSQL: Host '208.138.126.7' is blocked because of many connection errors. Unblock with 'mysqladmin flush-hosts' An electronic version of 'Drain-O'?... or is 'Vanish' a more apt product comparison? CompuServe has ghost bots which go checking the Forums automatically for people who aren't really there but have left a ghost behind because they didn't log out and reset (dropped connection, crashed computer, whatever). Doesn't the Internet proper have something like this? Carolly