Dear Admins; I have a suggestion concerning the hot 20 and the number rating system. Let me tell you what I saw and some of the things that Ive heard that indicates to me that the current system is in serious need of repair. First, for those that care about being in the hot 20, they go trolling for there friends to vote for it. Some only need a very few votes to get into it. Sometimes under 10 votes. Second the number ratings.... It has become totally useless. I went surfing to see some really great art, but what I found was a chaotic mix of badly thought out page design and useless practice images submitted by some of the members. I spent a couple of hours trying to find the end of all the images rated 10.0 Along the way I saw pictures that had as few as four viewings and two votes at 10. Really bad stuff too! I had to search well over 400 pages of images rated at 10. Ok, so here are my suggestions; please bear with me. Dump the hot 20---eliminate it, youll see why in a second. The rating system, there is nothing inherently wrong with it, but for fairness and usability flush it every month. You should be able to set it up to do it automatically say on the first of each month. Then use this formula to determine what the true ranking is and list the picture accordingly: (total rating/number of ratings)/total viewings Then the lower the resulting number the higher the ranking. This WILL result in a really usable system. The example listed about with 4 viewings and 2 ratings at 10 would give the result that the pictures true rating is 1.25 Another example is: overall rating at 9.6 with 14 people giving ratings 269 viewings (9.6 divided by 14) divided by 269 results in a true rating of 0.0011617 Which is much better then a 1.25. It is a simple matter for your php data base to sort it now by this number by ascending order. The formula can be added to a single line existing of code. Of course, you would still display the rating of 9.6 As I hope you can see, this could create an instant accurate Hot 20 Showcase. Eliminate artificial stacking of the results for both the rating system and the hot twenty showcases. And give you the ability to have a Best of the Year showcase without any one person have to inject there own personal opinion and remove any cries of nepotism. Ken Martin geoegress