Well... judging from the full product P5 price ($550), it seems that it's likely that I could be right in fearing a $200-$250 upgrade price from P4 to P5. :-( One consideration: Curious Labs affirmed recently that Poser 5 price "will be in the Poser price tradition" or a similar sentence. Well, sincerely, I don't think that an US price of $550 is in the tradition of Poser affordability. I remember the copies of Poser 4 on the Italian shelves, in the MC days, and you could get it with the equivalent of $300. I don't remember the US list price of Poser 4 in the MC days, but considering that Europe prices for Poser are usually higher than US prices, I would say that it was probably less than $300 in the US back then. Now to me a hop of $250 or more on the list price sounds like alot - in fact, Poser price has almost doubled - I wouldn't call this a traditional Poser price policy. What I hope is that Curious Labs could at least set up this time a ditribution structure in Europe that does not punish European users as it was the case with the Pro Pack, whose price in many European countries was as much as 70% or more higher than in the U.S. Now this, for Poser 5, would mean a full product price of the equivalent of about $950, and a probable upgrade price from P4 of the equivalent of about $425. Which would definitely (at least for the moment) cut me out of the possibility of upgrading.