madriver opened this issue on Jul 24, 2002 ยท 14 posts
madriver posted Wed, 24 July 2002 at 10:43 AM
will probably be in the 800-1000. range with features to match. I think P5 is clearly CL's attempt to distance its flagship product from the industry-wide negative stigma that Poser has. I think it's a good thing. One way they're going to do that is to up the price. Truespace did the same thing and is starting to gain more respect among pros.
Jim Burton posted Wed, 24 July 2002 at 6:13 PM
I'm waiting for Poser 8 myself, but I hear Poser 9 will let you drive it to work, leaving your car behind... ;-)
SergeantJack posted Wed, 24 July 2002 at 6:34 PM
Poser 10 will replace all life on Earth.
madriver posted Wed, 24 July 2002 at 7:06 PM
Except cockroaches :)
lmckenzie posted Thu, 25 July 2002 at 12:01 AM
This premise has been popping up since the price announcement. I don't know how true it is. Looking at what Poser 5 is going to have, I think it is unrealistic to expect them to sell it for much less than the $500 range. One can arge that PhotoShop is overpriced, given that you can get most of that functionality in Corel PhotoPaint or perhaps PSP for much less. You can't say that about Poser since you won't find that combination of features and ease of use for anything like the price if you can find it at all in a single product. I'm sure CL would like to get more "respect" from the high end but it's a tricky calculation. If you lose 5 customers at $250 and pick up 1 at $1000, it's a net loss. Also, attitudes are hard to change. People who disdain Poser as a toy aren't necessarily going to change their attitudes just because the price goes up. They also have a large investment in software and training that they aren't going to be eager to throw out the window.
"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken
ardvarc37 posted Thu, 25 July 2002 at 1:40 AM
"Caligari did not do that, their price is still the same since 4.3 and they offer good deals constantly". Alex
Staale posted Thu, 25 July 2002 at 4:44 AM
PS Elements is cheap GMAX is freeMaya LE is freeBorland progs are free Must be crap then ;)
ardvarc37 posted Thu, 25 July 2002 at 10:21 AM
Attached Link: http://www.aliaswavefront.com/en/Home/homepage.shtml
No, Maya PLE, "personal learning edition", not save disabled, but only ONE file type in saving and the renders are watermarked. Alex
ardvarc37 posted Thu, 25 July 2002 at 10:23 AM
However I think it's "personaly no way to be learning".... lol
ardvarc37 posted Thu, 25 July 2002 at 10:26 AM
and oh I forgot, no matter what you save in it, what you save in Maya PLE, whether object, 3d animation, 2D image, painting, movie, it is all ".MP" file type. Alex
madriver posted Thu, 25 July 2002 at 11:04 AM
Figure it out: Maya PLE has one file format that can't be transferred to any other program. IOW, they want you to spend the 1600 bucks for the main program. PLE is a tease. and Truespace HAS raised their prices since version 2 by a few hundred dollars. I agree that there is no program even remotely close to Poser in terms of what it can do and with the ease it offers. And I think "pro" pack signalled a push to expand their market. If they really wanted to do that, however, they should change their name from Poser to something else. Personally, I love the program and think pros who sneer at it are snobs and a bunch of lemmings eager to follow the crowd and jump off a cliff...
madriver posted Thu, 25 July 2002 at 11:07 AM
And even the Hash board (which you have to sign up for and is a major pain in the a..) envied the Poser community for its innovations, generosity, plentiful freebies, utilities, etc.
ardvarc37 posted Thu, 25 July 2002 at 11:25 AM
lmao
Legume posted Mon, 29 July 2002 at 11:05 AM
I heard you can actually make the beast with two backs with the Poser 10 figures.