Come on people,,,Lighten up!!!!! The Bad marks and comments in the gallery are really childish....Too slam someone with a 1 and then rip them apart for posting unrealistic likeness'..or putting them in cloths they would never wear...come on!!!! This is virtual....this is Poser...Give um' a break...If your looking for some place to go where nudity is not allowed let me know,,, I've some links too other sites that only allow well dressed Poser people..Some of these people are posting for the first time and this sure ain't gonna help them grow and aspire.. Who cares if Xena would never wear a white plastic bikini??? Or if Trinity doesn't actually look like Trinity????Look a little a deeper into the post.If they screwed up the elbow joint say so,,If you think they could've used different lighting say so....Etc.....But for heavens sake just because it ain't the way "YOU" would do it,,Don't beat them up!!!!Remember this is fantasie here not reallity!!!So lighten up,,,Be more objective,,,not so critical....YOU YOURSELF WERE ONCE A BEGINER..... As "I" step back and grab "MY" body armour...and close the door to the bunker....Waiting for the repercussions of this post!!!!!!!!!

I agree Cody! Comments should be constructive and not destructive. Destructive comments to a new artist can make them loose interest in their newly found hobby. Try to give contructive comments. I feel that some of the people who slam other artists work are NOT very secure with their own work. Usually there is some underlying reason that people feel a need to bash rather than be constructive. I personally would never slam someone elses work. I try to provide constructive information. We should all work this way. It will help us all to become better artists. Oh well, just a few thoughts. Clint

Clint Hawkins
MarketPlace Manager/Copyright Agent

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All my life I've been over the top ... I don't know what I'm doing ... All I know is I don't wana stop!
(Zakk Wylde (2007))

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I'm in total agreement as well. I've always tried to be a defender of others, as you are right now. I've started threads to defend the beginner when the experienced artists respond to a cry for help on posing or lighting or transparencies or something, and the response is "Oh, just go look in the manual!" We're all here to help, not just take things or slam others. I agree with Clint, that those who only have negative feedback probably don't feel like their art is all that good, so they want others to feel bad. Let's give only helpful and useful comments. Melanie

PS: Sometimes the artists getting slammed aren't even new ones, but we all like to hear good things and not the negative, even if we've been working at it for a while. It's discouraging. When someone worked long hard hours on something they feel proud enough about to post publicly, it's no fun to get dumped on about the work's flaws. Art is subjective anyway, so anything goes. If Xena had on a white bikini, who cares? The artist still worked hard on it. Melanie

Just remember that even Michelangelo had to endure his share of moronic critics. At least he found a way to get back, like when he included one of his critics in the scene depicting the fallen souls stuck in Hell when he painted the Sistine Chapel.

In my opinion, there are to much "positive" reaktions on the artwork in this site. It seems you were all beginners. You can only learn from true critics, positive and negative. Of course it is nicer to hear the positive, You think you are great and you're not inspired to get better. I think you learn the most of the more critical (negative) reaktions.

I think it's kind of tough being a GOOD critic (I think a good critic will find at least three bad things and three good things to say about something, no matter how good or bad it is overall...) with a message window as small as the one in the Galleries... Most people put a one-three line reply saying their gut reaction and nothing more.

I don't think it's that hard to give constructive criticism. State what you like, what you don't like, and how to fix what you think is wrong. There's a difference between helpful comments, and rude, negative ones. With the Xena example above, try something like: "The bikini looks like plastic. A fabric or leather textured bikini would make more sense." I always plead for constructive criticisms for my work. Things like, "It sucks" doesn't help much, though.

Crescent - Exactly. The catch phrase is "Constructive" criticism. Criticism is good for the artist. I persnally like it. It helps me think and look into other angles that maybe I overlooked when building an image. Its the "Negative" criticism that is no good. I feel we are all here to help each other enjoy something that we all have a passion for. To help each of the members grow they need criticism. Some will give negative because thats just the way they are. Other will give constructive because they care. I care about the way another person will feel when I reply so I try to use tact and that usually yields constructive comments. Ahhh...Hell this could go on for days. As Crescent said "Things like, "It sucks" doesn't help much.." and it doesnt help the artist grow. Might help them get a thicker skin.. ;) Anyway - Im outta this thread. Best Regards, Clint PS - I liked Xena in the bathing suit! ;) But yea, animal skin would have fit the character a little better, in my opinion. ;)

Clint Hawkins
MarketPlace Manager/Copyright Agent

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All my life I've been over the top ... I don't know what I'm doing ... All I know is I don't wana stop!
(Zakk Wylde (2007))

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As the Xena bikini poster, I thank you for your support. I was trying to be light-hearted. Comments on texture, lighting and lack of background are understandable, but assaults were a bit too much. I did change my comments to include that Xena did wear a white bikini in an episode, so commentors on image contexts were not as informed as they thought. Maybe if I preface my submissions with NOT HIGH ART I would have been spared but its too late. I suggest comments be made about the images and not the artist unless you are close personal friend with extensive access to thier personal diaries. Comments on the context of the items and not the location of the poster's mind ("in the gutter"). If an image is not worth a constructive comment then skip it. I have to run now and do a Xena and Grabrielle in hot tub post.

Uh, I must have missed this one. I don't give harsh criticism myself-no point to it other than to hurt someone. Constructive criticism given as a SUGGESTION is another story. As in "what if you were to add, subtract, change, antialias,etc". One thing that annoys me slightly, is posting IMAGE, LINK, etc, without any image to get attention. Thats a minor peeve of mine. I suppose if I did not have a slow connection (ancient house wiring limits to 26K on a good day), I would not mind the 20-30 seconds wasted when an image is expected. Thats my 2.335 cents. Eric Walters

I don't think there's anything wrong with "negative criticism," it's in how it is approached. You can tell a person what's wrong with their work, but in a tactful and polite way without slamming them. A good critic should be able to say it without offending or hurting the artist's feelings. You don't have to make the artist feel like a fool when you're pointing out the "negative" things. It should be done in an encouraging way, not nit-picking or insults. Melanie

It must be constructive criticsm....But some of what is being done "IS" destructive....ionah,,, The point I'm trying too make is in line with what every one else is saying....If the elbow looks like crap, tell them...thats constructive!!!....Xena will hurt you with her boomerange-knifethingy for putin' her in a white plastic bikini...IS just plain stupid...."WE" are all here to grow and learn (I HOPE???) And all this is leading too is a ratings war... You know so and so gave me a 2 so "I" will give him a 1.. And no,,,,,It is not all good and positive moral building comment's. I posted one at Renderotica,,, And boy did "I" learn a few things...But each and every comment was tactfully put. I thought it looked really good...But I missed a few of the basics' and it was brought to my attention...So I catalouged it and moved on...when someone shares a render that they may have spent several hours or maybe even a few days working on they would like to hear some honest to goodness criticsm...HONEST TO GOODNESS CRITICSM>>>>>>>>

The way you criticize the person is very important I believe, if you go like this "Your works scks you lousy stoopid f*er, that hand shouldn'T be like this you moron" etc. Its not gonna help at all, cuz all you mainly do, is your degrading the person, and that person might be so pssed at you, all he will remember is your name and not your criticism. People should suggest something, and if possible give some reference to show is point.